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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: Deleted... Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking at the wiki page, I can find no mention of a Korean origin. Still, wiki is not the be all and end all when it comes to these matters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku#Origin_and_evolution
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're Korean friend is probably talking about "Sijo", a similar but more ancient form of poetry than Haiku, with roots in even older Chinese quatrains.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sijo

Sijo is a modern term for a Korean style of lyrical poetry, originally called tanga (literally, "short song"). The sijo strongly resembles Japanese haiku in having a strong foundation in nature in a short profound structure.

Korean poetry can be traced at least as far back as 17 BC with King Yuri's Song of Yellow Birds but its roots are in still earlier Chinese quatrains. Sijo, Korea's favorite poetic genre, is often traced to Confucian monks of the eleventh century, but its roots, too, are in those earlier forms. Its greatest flowering occurred in the 16th and 17th centuries under the Joseon Dynasty. The earliest poem of the sijo genre is from the 14th century.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=42823&highlight=sijo
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
canuckistan wrote:
You're Korean friend is probably talking about "Sijo", a similar but more ancient form of poetry than Haiku, with roots in even older Chinese quatrains.


Yes, this is what she referred to.

I was not aware that the Japanese form derived, at least in part, from the Korean form.

I wonder why all of our attn is focused on the Japanese form (I remember studying and writing Haiku in high school creative writing class) and almost no attn given to the older Korean form (I never heard of it before last week).


I don't mean this in a bad way, but maybe to us Westerners we studied the newer, better version rather than the older one. I have no clue if this is true, just a theory. I also wouldn't suggest bringing this one up with the Korean student Wink

Personally, I am not a fan of Shakespeare's style of writing, but the stories are good.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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