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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Gutted, but nothing I can do... Reply with quote

Hello everybody,

I just wanted to have a bit of a moan, and see if anyone else had had any similair experiences. I've spent the last couple of months looking into going to Korea to work as an ESL teacher. So I made up my resume, sent it off to some recruiters, did loadsa research (this site is pretty good for that!) and tried to generally get my head around the whole thing.

The response to my resume was pretty amazing, all good and plenty of offers for work. I eventually settled on one hagwon, in Paju city and had a good chat with the director there. She was really keen for me to go and work there, and because I got a really good vibe from her I accepted it. I gave my notice at work, told my landlord that I would be moving out, as the start date was to be May 1st. The recruiter asked for my documents, which I sent via FedEx (�40!!), then it all went a bit quiet.

Then yesterday I got a message from the recruiter, the teacher I was going to take over from has decided to stay for another year so its not available any more. He offered another job immediately, in Ulsan, in a school where I would be the only foreign teacher. I said no, because I want to be near Seoul and have heard a few negative things about Ulsan.

I know there's nothing I can do about the job eing cancelled, but is it being unreasonable to ask the recruiter to refund my FedEx charge? I am still planning to come to Korea, as soon as possible, but if my documents are returned to me I will only have to pay ANOTHER �40 to send them back again. Or should I just not bother with recruiters at all and come on a tourist visa and then look for work? Problem is, I don't really have the spare cash at the moment to be buying a plane ticket.... What do y'all reckon?
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could ask the recruiter but I would bet that would be last you would hear from them.

Click on a bunch of the jobs posted here on Daves and shoot off your resume....you should be able to get a job within a week or so.

Oh yes.....I hope you didnt send your originals when you FEDxed them over.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:

Oh yes.....I hope you didnt send your originals when you FEDxed them over.


Ahhh..... It was kinda specified that all certificates had to be originals! So I did..... And I just read another thread about this too Evil or Very Mad
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a job where they'll pay your way over
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take your degree to the nearest Korean consulate or Embassy and get a certified copy.

Transcripts need to be sealed and original.

Never send your original degree away though......you never know what the heck is going to happen to it.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Take your degree to the nearest Korean consulate or Embassy and get a certified copy.

Transcripts need to be sealed and original.

Never send your original degree away though......you never know what the heck is going to happen to it.


I had my transcripts all sorted! Exactly as specified, I even photographed the envelope and emailed pictures ahead of Fedexing, to verify it. Just sorta took the degree thing for granted... Confused

Mind you, a little excursion down to London could be fun! Razz
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Porter_Goss



Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Location: The Wrong Side of Right

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

School should pay;
1. Airfare
2. Visa expenses (i.e. official copy of diploma, pictures, actual visa, etc...)
3. Relocation pay

Did I forget anything?
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Transcripts need to be sealed and original.


As a general rule, yes, but I've just received a new E2 visa by using unsealed notarised copies of my transcript.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've got another interview coming up today, so fingers crossed for that...

My documents are currently in Korea, and the recruiter that I sent them to has said he will courier them back to me. Is it unreasonable to ask him to send them to another recruiter, if I decide to accept this job? I would not have thought so, as it will be much cheaper for him to do this. However, I dont know if there is much inter-recruiter competition over there, or whether this might be percieved as offensive, or whether it may take an extraordinarily long time....??
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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know its illegal in America to have your diploma scanned but if you have that you can e-mail the scanned copy. Most likely the Hakwon you will work at won't do squat(start your Immigration application process until you get here). They want to see what you are like(good/bad).

So, you can tell the recruiter who has your diploma to hold it until you get here and then go pick it up(hopefully the recruiter is in the same city you will work). Of course this is if you have a scanned copy; you could even fax a copy of your diploma with the understanding that you will get your diploma in the very near future. Good luck getting your diploma and teaching illegally for the first 20 + days!
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Never send your original degree away though......you never know what the heck is going to happen to it.


A month after I graduated, my brand-spanking new master degree was mailed to me after getting notarized and inspected.

When I opened it, it had a crease right through the middle of it as it had been folded in half. And on the back, the governments had stamped and signed the document it for notarization/verification purposes.

I was a little shocked at how rough they were with it. It was a brand new document - not even a month old! - but by the time I got it back it looked like sheeit.

On the other hand, I guess it did it's job as I got the position I wanted.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
Grotto wrote:
Never send your original degree away though......you never know what the heck is going to happen to it.


A month after I graduated, my brand-spanking new master degree was mailed to me after getting notarized and inspected.

When I opened it, it had a crease right through the middle of it as it had been folded in half. And on the back, the governments had stamped and signed the document it for notarization/verification purposes.

I was a little shocked at how rough they were with it. It was a brand new document - not even a month old! - but by the time I got it back it looked like sheeit.

On the other hand, I guess it did it's job as I got the position I wanted.


Niiiiiiiiice.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Take your degree to the nearest Korean consulate or Embassy and get a certified copy.


I'm trying to get some clarification on this...because I've heard different stories. You take your diploma and some color copies to the consulate or embassy and they ?certify or notarize? that they are true copies of the original?

Does it or does it not have to be the consulate/embassy closest to the university that issued the degree? Can you, as you said, use the one closest or most convenient to you?
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take your original Degree to the nearest consulate or embassy, they will photocopy it and certify the copy.

DO NOT bring your own copies with you.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Take your original Degree to the nearest consulate or embassy, they will photocopy it and certify the copy.

DO NOT bring your own copies with you.


Ok, at http://www.koreanconsulate.org/english/Affairs/index4.asp it says:

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Each document requiring the Consular Seal must first be notarized.
The Notary Public has to attach the Apostille issued by the Secretary of State.
Submit both the original document to which you want the Consular Seal affixed and the photostatic copy of that document. The copy will be retained in the Consulate files.


Has anyone ever done this in New York?
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