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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: Are You!? Can you be Country/Korean? |
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Why is it, that certain people always use country/American!
Talk to a black guy! You American? YES African American!
Talk to an Italian guy! You American? Yeah Italian American!
Talk to the ASIAN guy! You Korean? Naa American! ok Korean American!
Meet a white guy in bar!! Where you from? America!
Meet a Mexican guy! Born and raised in East LA! Yo where you from man?
EAST LA MAN!! So you American? IM MEXICAN MAN!! ?? you don��t really hear MEXICAN AMERICAN
Usually you hear them just say IM Mexican! Even tho they were born and raised in LA
And what about INDIANS! They move to usa they get citizenship, you ask them!
So where are you from sir? IM from INDIA! Ask there kids! Where you guys from?! America!
You don��t usually hear them say! INDIAN/AMERICAN do you?..
The African blacks have been on American land for 400 years! But they still say African/American! how many countries are in Africa.. these guys use the Continent now..
Well the patriotic ones!
You hear Italians say! Italian Americans! Even if they have never been to ITALY! But their grandfather came over on the boat and they live in the Italian community you know how it is!!
Certain nationalities keep their country in the title! Others don��t! certain people say it others don��t!
You NEVER hear a white guy say! I��m English American! Or I��m Dutch/American! Or Polish/American!
NATIVES- AMERICAN INDIANS!
So how does this work!!
Can a guy who just moves to USA gets citizenship is originally from TURKEY! Walks into a bar and the barman asks him ��where are you from��? He replies! I am AMERICAN!!! Does this work?
KYOPOS do this all the time! They lived there for 15 years went to school, come here you ask them where they are from! They say! America!! IM Korean- American! Even Koreans who were born in USA cant speak Korean never been to Korea.. say KOREAN AMERICAN!
White guy! AMERICAN!!!
SO does this mean! Foreigners who get F5 visas in Korea can they say! AMERICAN/KOREAN?
IM Canadian/ Korean
Now what about a sibling of a mix relationship, wife is Korean, father is Canadian they live in KOREA!
They will say! IM Korean Canadian right?
now They live in Canada they will say Canadian Korean ? or maybe just canadian but a pure korean blood child would say Korean Canadian
But what about a foreigner who has moved to Korea gotten citizenship lives here for 20 years!
Ask him ! Where are you from? CAN you, SHOULD you, WOULD YOU reply
COUNTRY/ KOREAN?
something to think about.. |
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visitor q
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Location: The epitome of altruism - Oh Obese Newfoundler, I Am Going To Throttle Your Neck, Kaffir
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Yeah, I knew this Canadian guy in Vietnam that was married. Each time someone asked him if his wife was Vietnamese, he would reply with, "No. She's Thai. Thai-Chinese."
It was as if he had to defend having a Thai wife by saying that, "Well, she's Thai, but her ethnicity is Chinese".
Wouldn't it be great if we did the same?
"I'm American - white American!"
"I'm Norwegian - white Norwegian!"
But yeah, it is retarded on so many levels. Like, I can see that you're black, shut up with the African-American thing, and where's your loincloth, ha ha. |
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SweetBear
Joined: 18 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:09 am Post subject: |
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But yeah, it is retarded on so many levels. Like, I can see that you're black, shut up with the African-American thing, and where's your loincloth, ha ha.[/quote]
There's nothing wrong with recognizing your roots. I'm English American.However I don't carry a yorkshire pudding, steak and kidney pie, or fish and chips around with me. I do say ( when asked) that I am American. I also try to have respect for the way that people wish to identify themselves if it means respecting their ancestors. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I pretty much agree with itaewonguy on this one. T Roosevelt called them 'hyphenated Americans'. I don't like it much. Adding on the ethnic/national origin to citizenship separates and divides us. In normal living, the issue of where the ancestors came from is not relevant. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| I pretty much agree with itaewonguy on this one. T Roosevelt called them 'hyphenated Americans'. I don't like it much. Adding on the ethnic/national origin to citizenship separates and divides us. In normal living, the issue of where the ancestors came from is not relevant. |
Sometimes it is, but not in normal discussions. When I was applying for my job in Korea, I would put British/Canadian as they now have the option of using either of my passports. It turned out being Canadian in Korea is much better than British (with the pension and all). |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm an Irish-Spanish English. |
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bobbyhanlon
Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| 'irish americans' are possibly the most annoying; having one great-grandfather from cork and drinking guinness does not make you irish. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| 'irish americans' are possibly the most annoying; having one great-grandfather from cork and drinking guinness does not make you irish. |
lol.
agreed.
What's worse however is Saint Tw*ts Day being celebrated in England (doesn't even matter if you've no Irish blood whatsoever) yet St George's Day no-one bothers with.
Dreadful shower. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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IMO it's mostly an American thing.
There are few people (none) that walk around calling themselves African Canadian (or something like that). |
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Porter_Goss
Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| I pretty much agree with itaewonguy on this one. T Roosevelt called them 'hyphenated Americans'. I don't like it much. Adding on the ethnic/national origin to citizenship separates and divides us. In normal living, the issue of where the ancestors came from is not relevant. |
I acknowledge your point, but I think the personal labels we use to identify ourselves can be very helpful to the community we encounter. These labels offer a summarized history of who we are and aid in further cultural understanding. When I hear "African-American" I immediately distinguish the heritage of American slavery. When I hear "Irish-American" I instantly think of the Irish Diaspora during the great famine. "Native-American"? "Iraqi-American"? "Japanese-American"? These are all Americans, but how they came to be American is part of who they are. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I acknowledge your point, but I think the personal labels we use to identify ourselves can be very helpful to the community we encounter. |
The trouble is, in my view, that I am Dutch-American. When I mention that, people just go, "Ho hummm. Got a windmill, a tulip or a wooden shoe?" Nobody sympathizes with me because my ancestors fought an 80 year war of independence against the scummy Spanish Catholics under the Duke of Alva. Or that we had to flood half the country to keep Louis XIV out. Why isn't the suffering of my ancestors as important as everyone else's? |
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red headed stranger
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I think at some point you need to cal it a wash and just search for your own place in this world.
If I only went back as far as the blood relatives I have personally met, I could claim English, Irish, German, Spanish, Puerto Rican, and Native American Ancestry. If I think about it, I can see how the influences of these cultures on the way my family does things, but that is a lot of baggage to carry around. It would take quite a chart just to figure out which part of me is supossed to hate the other part.  Just being an "American" is fine with me. I am looking towards the future rather than the past.
My wife came from a family that has at least 7 generations of Germans. I was the first not-Lutheran, non-purebred German to marry into the family in 150 years. The funny thing is, that even though they beat you over the head with the "we're German" thing all the time, you wouldn't know it. They don't know anything about German food, and none of them can speak German. (Ironically I can!) However, any of their idiosyncracies are played off with a "that how us Germans do it." Sound familiar? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
IMO it's mostly an American thing.
There are few people (none) that walk around calling themselves African Canadian (or something like that). |
Yeah, in Canada it's a lot more common just to say "black."
I remember hearing about a couple of sports announcers talking once:
Announcer 1: There goes Donovan Bailey, a great African-American runner.
Announcer 2: Actually, he's a Caribbean-Canadian. |
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Porter_Goss
Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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| I acknowledge your point, but I think the personal labels we use to identify ourselves can be very helpful to the community we encounter. |
The trouble is, in my view, that I am Dutch-American. When I mention that, people just go, "Ho hummm. |
That's your opportunity to enlighten, as you did in your post. Plus, if you stopped wearing wooden shoes I think you might get different responses. |
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Porter_Goss
Joined: 26 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
IMO it's mostly an American thing.
There are few people (none) that walk around calling themselves African Canadian (or something like that). |
Yeah, in Canada it's a lot more common just to say "black."
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How many ethnically African Canadians got there as a result of the slave trade? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I don't know the history of African slavery in Canada... I assume it was not the industry it was in the United States. When an African-American says the are an "African-American" they are identifying the heritage of slavery. |
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