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How much would it cost for you to accept living with a roommate? |
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300,000 |
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500,000+ (please specify) |
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cazador83

Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: How much would you demand for shared housing? |
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So I was given the opportunity to live in a single housing, or shared housing, provided by my school. Both places were nice, and even the roommate, who was a fellow co-worker was fine as well. Everything was furnished of course and nice, but in the end I decided to go with the single, just because I don't know if I could have a roommate for a whole year. However, we were offered an extra 200,000 won per month each if we wanted to stay in the 2 bedroom apartment (this is in Bundang). So I'm just curious... how much would it cost for you to accept living with a roommate for a year? Some people are telling me I'm crazy not to have accepted an extra $200 a month, because some people get allowances of only 300,000 a month if they choose money over provided housing. I think for 400,000 I would do it for sure, and 300-350 I'd be kind of iffy, but for me 200,000/month only equals about $2400 in a year and that's not enough. |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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There is not enough money on the planet to make me live with a roommate. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with SuperHero on this one. I would only do it if I had absolutely no options. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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I would never have a roommate, unless it's my husband....... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Where's the option for "No way Jose!"
Why is your director so hell-bent on the two of you sharing housing ? If he's paying the two of you (combined) an extra 400,000 won a month, he's not going to save that much. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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In the end, schools that don't offer housing, and don't make up for it with other perks, are just sending a signal they are trying to get over on you.
The issue with housing here isn't about monthly rent, it's about key money.
Get the school to drop a 20,000,000+ deposit(around Seoul) or tell them to service themselves.
Cheers. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Without the forced shared-accommodation arrangements of today, where, oh where would half of the Freakiest Waygook stories of tomorrow come from? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:05 am Post subject: |
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JongnoGuru wrote: |
Without the forced shared-accommodation arrangements of today, where, oh where would half of the Freakiest Waygook stories of tomorrow come from? |
I guess you will have to start looking more carefuly at your circle of friends?
Any stories you can tell us, BTW?  |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:49 am Post subject: |
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first off asking for compensation for living with a roomate will get you nothing but some possible ill will from your new employer (that would be quite the achievement beforeyou even teach your first class!).
Better route is to ask for single housing or a housing allowance and find your own place.
There is no justification for them giving you money because the accomodations are shared...
Whats next? A bonus because you live overseas?
Food bursery to offset the fact you may have to eat Korean food sometimes?
Perhaps they should pay for your transit pass too and the taxis you take on your free time...
Anyway...simple and logic option here is to say you want single housing (it is common these days) or a housing allowance. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:57 am Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
JongnoGuru wrote: |
Without the forced shared-accommodation arrangements of today, where, oh where would half of the Freakiest Waygook stories of tomorrow come from? |
I guess you will have to start looking more carefuly at your circle of friends?
Any stories you can tell us, BTW?  |
I submitted a couple "candidates" to the sacred contest thread over the past two years, though they weren't freaky roommates/flatmates. Let me think...
Okay, this one barely qualifies given the brief period we actually shared digs. There was one odd guy where I worked. He was an American in his forties, single, not especially blessed in the looks department, though he had a Korean fiancee I saw a few times who was a model and looked like she should be. Our time at that office and in the Republic overlapped only very briefly. I hadn't been at that company very long and was still getting my bearings, and he was soon to be leaving Korea (though nobody including he knew it then) with, um... shall I say "fewer bearings than he had when he got here"?
For what I recall was less than a month and maybe as short as a week, the two of us were thrown together in one apartment whilst the employer scrambled around for new housing. I think the lease on that apartment was expiring.
Anyway, to the freaky stuff. (I feel like I'm cheating the Freakiest Waygook Contest thread by posting this here.)
1. One of his more pronounced quirks was talking to himself, or rather rehearsing conversations to himself, aloud and where other people could hear him, like in the office, at a ta-bang, on a bus. Not at a normal speaking volume, it was quieter than that. But it was still audible to everyone near him.
If you were standing near him or if the room was silent, you could make out what he was saying. The first few times I heard him mumbling in the office, I thought he was talking on the phone in a hushed tone. I passed by his office (beside mine, with tall partition walls that almost but didn't quite reach the ceiling) and notice that he wasn't on the phone. So I guessed he was reading something aloud from... I don't know, a letter, a book, some correspondence he was composing.
But no, that wasn't it either, because on a few occasions I sat with him on the bus (he'd always insist on the window seat) and after a short while he'd be staring out the window, oblivious to me or anyone else around, and sure as clockwork the little "conversation rehearsals" (I'm not sure what else to call them) would start up again. It was fairly creepy, like an actor rehearsing his lines for a play, going over certain bits a few times, going on, then coming back to them. I pretended to read, sleep or otherwise not notice. Sometimes I'd say "Pardon me?" and he'd say, "Oh sorry, it was nothing", and then he'd stop. Until the next time.
What was he mumbling about? Wow, everything. Everything from US politics to anti-Korea rants, quarrels with his fiancee, office & work-related stuff. It wasn't clear if he was reconstructing past arguments/soliloquies he'd had or preparing mental notes for future ones.
2. This happened before I got there, but a Korean girl in the office later told me he had her translate from English to Korean a home-made contract that he was going to have his Korean fiancee (then girlfriend) sign before giving her an engagement ring. The contract stated that the woman would have to give back the ring if the couple broke up before the wedding.
3. Ugh... This is the "freaky flatmate" incident. One night while we were both staying at the same apartment, he pounds on my room door at midnight or later, tells me that "they" poisoned his kalbi-tang, and begs me to help get him to a hospital (but not the nearest hospital, as "they" would probably have that one staked out!).
Some might say that freaky weygookers are attracted to Korea, but I say this place manufactures as many as it draws. |
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cazador83

Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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if you were responding to me, you didn't read my post correctly.
i never asked for compensation nor demanded it. THEY offered paying us the extra money IF we wanted to choose shared housing over single. it was an incentive to do the shared housing, obviously.
Homer wrote: |
first off asking for compensation for living with a roomate will get you nothing but some possible ill will from your new employer (that would be quite the achievement beforeyou even teach your first class!).
Better route is to ask for single housing or a housing allowance and find your own place.
There is no justification for them giving you money because the accomodations are shared...
Whats next? A bonus because you live overseas?
Food bursery to offset the fact you may have to eat Korean food sometimes?
Perhaps they should pay for your transit pass too and the taxis you take on your free time...
Anyway...simple and logic option here is to say you want single housing (it is common these days) or a housing allowance. |
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Njord

Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Well, if they wanted to give me something, I would take it. However, I would do it for free if I met the guy first and decided that he seemed OK. I've had my share of roommates and only one of them was a disaster, so I guess I'm more willing than some to try my luck. (I'm in a single now, for what it's worth.) |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Njord wrote: |
Well, if they wanted to give me something, I would take it. However, I would do it for free if I met the guy first and decided that he seemed OK. I've had my share of roommates and only one of them was a disaster, so I guess I'm more willing than some to try my luck. (I'm in a single now, for what it's worth.) |
Yeah, a lot of the posters here who take the "over my dead or badly maimed body would I ever accept shared housing" line are older (aged, decrepit, nearly senile) and/or married types. Some aren't going to be around much longer.
Okay, what I mean is, some aren't going to be interested in sharing their home simply because of the practical obstacle that having a family presents. If someone is single, doesn't have or plan on buying a load of junk during their one year here, is quiet, considerate, etc., then I don't know that trading that empty room down the hall for an extra month's salary is such a bad idea.
But age and experience can also dictate one's preferences. For me, having a housemate seemed the most natural thing up to a certain point in time, and from that day onward, no. It's not what I want anymore. |
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steroidmaximus

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: GangWon-Do
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Quite frankly, it's rare to have a school offer this kind of option; usually it's: ok you live with this person. And that's the end of it. Unless insanity ensues.
Demanding money is a bad idea: either take the single or the 200k. If I was single, younger, the apt was a good one, and the other person seemed decent, I might lean towards the cash. |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Gwangwang
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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An additional years salary paid monthly.  |
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