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[jajdude]

Saw the guy on the Larry King show earlier. It occurred to me how much more intelligent and well-spoken he seems than Bush, who seems to swagger as he dog paddles through the river of his own incompetence. Yet all that seems to stand out about Clinton, besides his charisma and gift of gab, is that stupid 'scandal.' I remember hearing that some Europeans thought it was a joke the way Americans made such a big deal of that. (The conservative bible thumpers came out I suppose.) Anyway I got the impression he was a lot better than the man in charge now.

[jajdude]

Surely you mean PREZ dispenser?

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[Ya-ta Boy]

The purpose of the scandal was to 1) distract him from governing and 2) smear him because he was a decent president. Not great, certainly, but decent. A 60% approval rating at the end of the second term is an achievement in itself.

[EFLtrainer]

Clinton's second term was an exercise in futility thank you very much to Republican control of the Congress and their disturbing use of the Special Prosecutor as hamstring. We will, in fact, never know.

[ddeubel]

I think Clinton was a good prez. If only that he taught us about concensus and the middle way. He controlled the budget (though I respectfully admit that this is less in political hands than is often thought) and also could "communicate" -- a gift so few have these days where what is demanded is forthright lies and plain spokeness......a simple pretext for posture.

But I think Clinton's legacy rests (and is in that sense, GREAT) on the fact of the scandal and finally putting to rest the notion that "the king is great"/ "l'etat c'est moi". Slowly through the century, the United States has been edging towards "the leader as bureaucrat", as manager. They have been seeing their president as less presidential / special and more as a normal but exemplary person. This started early in the 20s and continued. Finally we are seeing that presidents are normal people, with normal desires and afflictions (if wanting a blow job is an "affliction"). Thank god for Clinton finally letting us see the emperor has no clothes or as Bob Dylan screamed, " even the president of the United states, sometimes has to stand naked".

President Bush is the Forest Gump confirmation of this fact. In fact Clinton can be given credit for preparing his way....

DD

[Ya-ta Boy]

[igotthisguitar]

This shoulda been a POLL!~

[waggo]

Al Quaida thought he was a great President.
They formed ,organised armed ,started attacking American interests and planned 9/11 under his watchful gaze.

I think he fired a cruise missile at one of their tents once.

A gutless foreign policy.

[Summer Wine]

The biggest success of Bill Clintons term was his philandering being unearthed. I understand that this might be hard to understand at first, but so long as he was hiding it and a small group knew about it. They could influence his decesions or expose his actions if he deferred.

We all know the president of the US is compromised, but try to remove the weapons that others use and maybe you have a leader instead of a puppet controlled by puppet masters.

Bill Clinton today (from an outsiders opinion) is the President that he should have been when he was in Power. It may not have been only the republicans that had him by the short and curlies when they discovered his actions. Its quite feasible that the democrats also held them before his philandering was made public.

Now what can you hold against him? He braved it through the storm and is at his strongest today, then when he was the president.

[Hater Depot]

[mithridates]

[ddeubel]