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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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jajdude wrote: |
Maybe a lot of Canadians are just dumb? |
Troll. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Summer Wine wrote: |
It may come down to this issue, the majority of American citizens agreeing with your statement.
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To be honest, I never even gave Canada a second thought till I came to Korea!
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While a large number of American international policies affecting Canada, Canadian citizens who support traditional home lands or just the impact that US international policies may have on Canada and people who live in Canada, while the democratic majority of the US will still say
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To be honest, I never even gave Canada a second thought!
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Oh, please. If you really had never given Canada a second thought, you wouldn't have bothered reading the thread, and even less posting a reply. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta-Boy wrote:
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The #1 Canadian complaint is that Americans don't know anything about them....what the capital is, who the prime minister is, the names of the provinces....
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Yes, and we love making fun about it
http://home.comcast.net/~wwwstephen/americans/ |
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Porter_Goss

Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Richard Krainium wrote: |
Why should this be locked?
It's a valid question. |
That has been asked in one way or another too many times... |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:50 am Post subject: |
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These kinds of threads are rarely very instructive. Nobody learns anything new about the world. People just vent.
Some of the other threads get heated, but at least people are encouraged to throw out links and get some discussion about facts going.
My advice, Richard, is do not create these kinds of threads in the future. Seriously, you're not doing anyone any favors, and although you are new, these sentiments and these topics are unfortunately not. |
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4 months left

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:22 am Post subject: |
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canuckistan wrote: |
Ya-ta-Boy wrote:
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The #1 Canadian complaint is that Americans don't know anything about them....what the capital is, who the prime minister is, the names of the provinces....
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Yes, and we love making fun about it
http://home.comcast.net/~wwwstephen/americans/ |
The huge majority of Canadians don't give a sh#t if Americans know anything about Canada.
A large percentage of teachers in Korea are strange/weird/freaks. A large percentage of the teachers are Canadian. Don't not judge the average Canadian by the average teacher in Korea, they truly do not represent the majority. Most Canadians like Americans or don't really care what they think about Canadians and Canada. |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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This board is rampantly anti-American. Articles left and right about America's evil policies, it's evil wars, it's evil president, it's evil religions, it's evil people, etc. etc. etc. and ad naseum. Most of the time us Americans just shrug it off, but I, and some of my other American brothers/sisters, from time to time say enough is enough and just let loose. Before I came to Korea I never really gave Canada a second thought. Not in any meaningful or negative way. It was a place I wanted to visit one day because I hear it's beautiful, but beyond that, it was totally out of my mind (unless the Blues were playing the Maple Leafs, the Oilers or the Flames��but I've sinced stopped watching hockey).
Now however, everytime I meet a new white person I have to wonder "Is this person a Canadian and are they going to launch in to a long and ignorant diatribe about my country." I had to literally bit my tounge at my local watering hole last week when a Canadian started going on off on a friend of mine about how horrible America was and how much we're damaging the rest of the world and the unbridled evil of Bill O'Reilly. To listen to him you'd think that O'Reilly is the cause of everything evil from the itch you get in the middle of your back that you can't scratch to cancer. Where do some Canadians get the b-alls to go up to a total stranger and insult their land, culture, society and beliefs and then have the extra set of b-alls in reserve to get offended when the person takes offense.
The audacity of it boggles the mind. I mean seriously, where do you people (Canadians) get off. I don't care if "these people are not representatives of real Canadians". You are the face of your country that most people in Korea see. The majority of other Americans I've met are almost rediculously well-behaved. They know that to some peoples their country is not the most popular at the moment, and go out of their way to be polite (myself included) but Canadians seem to have no such mechanism. Don't you have manners in Canada. Since when is it kosher to go up to a total stranger and start to insult them?
There really should be no surprise from anyone on this board that this topic comes up so much. Americans, the newbs especially, have to be amazed and astounded at the level of animosity that spews forth from the mouths of Canadians they run across. I know I was. I'm not sure how long it takes to lose newb status, but I've been here just shy of six months and i still approach any and all unkonwn Canadians with slight trepidation, if I bother to approach them at all.
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Lets get back to the beer for a moment. OP mentioned micro breweries. Bleh, cmon man have you ever been to Canada? Why is it that the Canadians can mass produce great beer and we have to drink piss water? Why is it that in this "great country" we call America, we can't go down to the local neighborhood 7-11 and get a bottle of something remotely equivalent to what the Canadians drink as a domestic beer?
I'll tell you why!!
Because this "great country" drove out the best pioneers of the brewery business!!
Men like Jean Talon- early settlers and traders, they were Canada's first brewers and they set the pace for things to come. Now, they sit up there and make fun of us. Anyone remember the commercial from a few years ago with the guy and his dog making fun of us yanks and our beer? It's painfully obvious that a few micro breweries just don't cut the mustard my friends. Until America can start taking it's beer seriously, those people are going to continue to laugh at us.
We need to seriously get with the program.
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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abbe...
why don't you beech slap that ignorant fo?
I'm canadian but FFFFFFFFCK do i hate it when i hear these ridiculous fools start droning on.
At first i thought it was some kinda stereotype cause all of my canadian friends here in busan are pretty cool about it.
And then I met a couple of these 'tweeds.
They are SO annoying.
Once the second girl started going off (at the mudfestival), I had to tell her to just give it a rest. She was drunk and she sounded likea complete
tuner.
In your opinion, how should canadians act to americans....AND vice versa?
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(unless the Blues were playing the Maple Leafs, the Oilers or the Flames��but I've sinced stopped watching hockey).
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you're/were a blues fan?
my condolences |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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SuperFly wrote: |
We need to seriously get with the program.
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Hey! You didn't even mention the dogs! For example, the Labrador...  |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: |
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khyber wrote: |
In your opinion, how should canadians act to americans....AND vice versa?
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(unless the Blues were playing the Maple Leafs, the Oilers or the Flames��but I've sinced stopped watching hockey).
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you're/were a blues fan?
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How should you act towards Koreans you've never met? Or Brits? Or Chinese? Or the Dutch? The same rules of polite society still apply. Would you walk into a Canadian neighborhood, filled with strangers, and just start knocking on doors and insulting them? Telling them their house has a crappy paint job? Or that there are weeds in their garden? Telling them their daughter is a w-*beep*? If you wouldn't insult random strangers at home, why would it be okay to do it here.
If you as a Canadian hate my President, hate the war or hate our religious dogma, then fine. Hate it all you want, I'm not arrogrant enough to think that everyone has to like us. According to poll numbers, the American you meet probably feels the same way. But that doesn't make it okay to express those hatreds to every American you come across. My personal views about my country aside, it's my home and I love my country. I would die for my country. I would never go up to a Canadian (or someone of any other nationality) and tell them how evil and vile their home is. Canadians especially seem to think that there above such rules of politeness.
How should we treat eachother? Unless the American or Canadian has done something specifically to insult you (beyond just being born in a certian geographical location) then treat them as you would treat any average person. You be polite, you nod, say hello, and see what you have in common before attacking over everything you don't.
That's what I do anyway. I like pretty much everyone until they give me a reason not to.
And yes, it's to the point that I don't even want to ackowledge the Blues anymore. It's very sad.
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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This board is rampantly anti-American. Articles left and right about America's evil policies, it's evil wars, it's evil president, it's evil religions, it's evil people, etc. etc. etc. and ad naseum. Most of the time us Americans just shrug it off, but I, and some of my other American brothers/sisters, from time to time say enough is enough and just let loose. |
I wouldnt say its rampantly anti-american. You are the one calling America evil...5 evils in one sentence...thats gotta be some kind of record.
What happens quite often is people start talking politics and its quite easy to trash talk political leaders.....some people find they have a pathological need to defend their political leader regardless of how stupid they are or how stupid their policies are.
Many people cannot look over the larger picture and remember things from 10 or 20 years ago that are affecting the current political climate(especially if it is/was the cause of the current problems)
Some people also get upset over any real or imagined slight that they percieve to their noble country. In many cases people post about things that they have little or no real knowledge about, jumping on the bandwagon to put in their two cents.
Last but not least....opinions are like assholes....everyone has one  |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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It's not just Canadians that seem anti-American, it's a lot of other nationalities too, and I think a lot of it stems from the shock/disbelief that a country as great as the USA could elect (well, sort of) such a dumbass president and his Texas cowboy shtick from such a socially regressive religious fundamentalist-leaning political party.
Doesn't look very good when they're leading the way with pointing the finger and dropping bombs on those other fundamentalists. |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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red headed stranger

Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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canuckistan wrote: |
It's not just Canadians that seem anti-American, it's a lot of other nationalities too, and I think a lot of it stems from the shock/disbelief that a country as great as the USA could elect (well, sort of) such a dumbass president and his Texas cowboy shtick from such a socially regressive religious fundamentalist-leaning political party.
Doesn't look very good when they're leading the way with pointing the finger and dropping bombs on those other fundamentalists. |
I have seen the argument of, "Americans are dumb because they voted for Bush" many times. Of course, this ignores the fact that the past two presidential elections have been very close, and that there is a quite culture war going on in America. There is hardly anything resembling a consensus on any of the big issues right now.
Moreover, EVERYONE needs to stop pulling the "Canadians think this, French think this, and Americans think this" thing when they are dealing with individuals. You'd think that people living overseas would have figured this one out by now. |
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