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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
Not choosing a religion is a position.
I'd say I'm sorry that rubs you the wrong way- but I'm not.
And thanks for pointing out the typo- spotting that must have really made your day, eh?
Glad I could be there for you.
Ooh, you called me monkey!
Nohdoh, babo!
To summarize: with someone like you on my ass I'm more sure than ever I'm on the right path.
But if I'm wrong I guess I'll see you in Hell.
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With the people on this board, Hell might not be so bad actually. Remember what I said, Christians hate agnostics cause they are incapable of disproving things to us. Disproving is a lot easier than proving  |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Just shrug your shoulders and let others waste their lives trying to figure things out. |
Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't feel I'm wasting my life, and yet, I've never stopped 'trying to figure things out'.
Who are these "others" you speak of?
You?
If you feel you've been wasting your life trying to figure things out, well- that's your problem.
Try praying harder. |
I thought you were brighter than this. Obviously, the "wasting their lives trying to figure things out," was pure sarcasm. The quest for the answers to the big questions is never a waste. Indeed, "the unexamined life is not worth living." However, your post came across as though you were proud not to care or ponder:
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| Christians are still trying to figure out what to do with us Agnostics. Athiests have set beliefs, and they can argue them. But we just don't really care until one of them comes to use with proof. |
The above quote also answers your question, "Who are these others you speak of?" You spoke of them. You spoke of Christians and atheists and state that you "really just don't care until one of them comes to us with proof." |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
I thought you were brighter than this. Obviously, the "wasting their lives trying to figure things out," was pure sarcasm. |
Sometimes it's more interesting to choose to be obtuse.
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| Christians are still trying to figure out what to do with us Agnostics. Athiests have set beliefs, and they can argue them. But we just don't really care until one of them comes to use with proof. |
This isn't mine. I didn't write it, and I have not commented on it.
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| The above quote also answers your question, "Who are these others you speak of?" You spoke of them. You spoke of Christians and atheists and state that you "really just don't care until one of them comes to us with proof." |
Again, that's not mine.
You do realize this, don't you?
I'm surprised.
Or is it your turn to play obtuse? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
| Bulsajo wrote: |
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| Just shrug your shoulders and let others waste their lives trying to figure things out. |
Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't feel I'm wasting my life, and yet, I've never stopped 'trying to figure things out'.
Who are these "others" you speak of?
You?
If you feel you've been wasting your life trying to figure things out, well- that's your problem.
Try praying harder. |
I thought you were brighter than this. Obviously, the "wasting their lives trying to figure things out," was pure sarcasm. The quest for the answers to the big questions is never a waste. Indeed, "the unexamined life is not worth living." However, your post came across as though you were proud not to care or ponder:
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| Christians are still trying to figure out what to do with us Agnostics. Athiests have set beliefs, and they can argue them. But we just don't really care until one of them comes to use with proof. |
The above quote also answers your question, "Who are these others you speak of?" You spoke of them. You spoke of Christians and atheists and state that you "really just don't care until one of them comes to us with proof." |
My theory is if God exists, I have led a pretty good life and don't have to worry. I would put good money (especially after reading your posts in the "Christians are more moral" thread) that I have done much more to actually help people, and I did it only for that reason, not out of fear or need from a storybook. If you hardcore fundis are right, I don't actually want to be a part of an insensitive, low-esteemed God. If there isn't a God, who cares? There is no need for me to find out. Those are just fine. If someone comes along a shows one of them to be false, I will change it.
For you, the afterlife is obviously important and you have spent a lot of time trying to understand that. For me, I have other priorities, so I see no need to spend a lot of time. For me, learning about the world is more important, and I am devoting my time to learning languages and meeting friends from different countries.
I also don't understand what you mean by the "Others". It seems you are having trouble keeping track of people and ideas. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| flakfizer wrote: |
I thought you were brighter than this. Obviously, the "wasting their lives trying to figure things out," was pure sarcasm. |
Sometimes it's more interesting to choose to be obtuse.
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| Christians are still trying to figure out what to do with us Agnostics. Athiests have set beliefs, and they can argue them. But we just don't really care until one of them comes to use with proof. |
This isn't mine. I didn't write it, and I have not commented on it.
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| The above quote also answers your question, "Who are these others you speak of?" You spoke of them. You spoke of Christians and atheists and state that you "really just don't care until one of them comes to us with proof." |
Again, that's not mine.
You do realize this, don't you?
I'm surprised.
Or is it your turn to play obtuse? |
You're right. You didn't write that. But for some reason you quoted something I said to LGG and responded to it as if you were his proxy. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
My theory is if God exists, I have led a pretty good life and don't have to worry. I would put good money (especially after reading your posts in the "Christians are more moral" thread)
That was neither the theme of the thread, nor was it mine. Go back and see that the arguments on that thread were in response to the statement that religion is basically nothing but dangerous. I showed that religious people have done a lot of good and still do.
For you, the afterlife is obviously important and you have spent a lot of time trying to understand that. For me, I have other priorities, so I see no need to spend a lot of time. For me, learning about the world is more important, and I am devoting my time to learning languages and meeting friends from different countries.
It is odd that you think religion is concerned only with the afterlife and that this life and the afterlife are completely separate.
I also don't understand what you mean by the "Others". It seems you are having trouble keeping track of people and ideas.
No, I went back and looked and it was definately you who wrote, "Christians are still trying to figure out what to do with us Agnostics. Athiests have set beliefs, and they can argue them. But we just don't really care until one of them comes to use with proof." These (Christians and atheists) are the 'others.' |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| By the way, is there a reason why Bulsa and Lao keep responding to what I wrote to the other? Are you guys married or the same person or something? |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
My theory is if God exists, I have led a pretty good life and don't have to worry. I would put good money (especially after reading your posts in the "Christians are more moral" thread) that I have done much more to actually help people, and I did it only for that reason, not out of fear or need from a storybook. If you hardcore fundis are right, I don't actually want to be a part of an insensitive, low-esteemed God. If there isn't a God, who cares? There is no need for me to find out. Those are just fine. If someone comes along a shows one of them to be false, I will change it. |
I hate to break this to you, but in the end it doesn't matter to God if you've led a good life without doing it in His name. I know, I know, this is all religious gobbly-gook to you but any reading of Scripture (you know, that fairy tale Christians call the Bible) will tell you that any good works you do of your own accord mean nothing...except to you of course. That's right, even "helping people." I find claims like "helping people" a bit dubious if you have to brag about them to make yourself seem more righteous. Also, I just love the way you put human attributes to God. Wow, if God isn't sensitive (that's so 90's) and, in your estimation He's low-esteemed (more psychobabble) then you don't want to have anything to do with Him. I'm shocked. |
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shortskirt_longjacket
Joined: 06 Jun 2004
Location: fitz and ernie are my raison d'etre
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| that is the gayest looking picture of any animal i've ever seen. that said, it's interesting stuff, to be sure. |
I don't get it...it's a gay-looking picture? Or the animal is gay? What?
Seems like everyone can instantly see the "gayness" but all I see is a lizard-type thing.
Someone please explain to me what's so gay about it. |
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Porter_Goss
Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| shortskirt_longjacket wrote: |
| endofthewor1d wrote: |
| that is the gayest looking picture of any animal i've ever seen. that said, it's interesting stuff, to be sure. |
I don't get it...it's a gay-looking picture? Or the animal is gay? What?
Seems like everyone can instantly see the "gayness" but all I see is a lizard-type thing.
Someone please explain to me what's so gay about it. |
See how limp his flipper is? Plus, it's fairly obvious that the only reason he chose to leave the sea was to make the journey to Massachusetts to get married to his life partner Todd. |
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shortskirt_longjacket
Joined: 06 Jun 2004
Location: fitz and ernie are my raison d'etre
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:55 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to need more to go on than a "limp fin"....
It's bizarre to me that so many people can automatically identify this picture as gay, but I'm left scratching my head....
...how is this quintessentially gay? |
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