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Do you ever "take a rest"??
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:01 am    Post subject: Do you ever "take a rest"?? Reply with quote

Nearly every Korean I have ever known has always said "let's take a rest" or "I need to take a rest" (not putting them down, I'm just saying) Always sounds funny to me and I tell them it should be "let's take a break" or "let's rest", "I need to rest" etc.

It's happened so many times now that I'm starting to think that perhaps I may be wrong (first time for everything). Can "rest" be used as a noun like they are doing? If so, where does this come from? England, Canada, US????
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Lizara



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm from Canada. I've heard it before.
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crazykiwi



Joined: 07 Jun 2003
Location: new zealand via daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed it too, but I do think it maybe could be in a weird type of way, correct?? Im just saying that rest and breaking are technically the same thing, so it should be used the same. I think they hust use it to cover all bases. I think its probably used because they know no other way to say it, like we do. I myself have said "lets take a rest" when walking up a mountain? or maybe i said " f this, i'm not moving anymore, why oh why did you drag me up here!!!". Anyway, just reply "ok, lets"
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look up ���, ���� ���鼭, or other similar constructions of ���� ���� on Google, you'll a few million hits. That leads me to believe this is a common phrase in Korean (thanks to Mithridates for teaching me that little trick). Anyway, this phrase would translate to "take a rest".

I've noticed that there are several common Korean words and/or phrases that usually translate properly, but often sound awkward, at least to me.

* Have you ever heard someone say, "I got it," when you're explaining something to them? I hear it all the time, but it's something I would never say. "Yeah, just turn right at the 7-11 and walk three blocks." "Oh, I got it!" Sounds weird, right? �˾Ҿ�

* How about describing a person as comfortable? I see that a lot, but it makes no sense in English. I like having friends who are comfortable... huh? ������

* One that irks me is "promise". If I make an appointment or schedule a date with you, I don't consider it a promise. A promise implies an extreme commitment to follow through, whereas an appointment can be cancelled. This one is misused a lot. Let's make a promise for Thursday. Um, no, let's plan to meet Thursday, instead. ���

* My favorite over-used word is "delicious". That's something I rarely used to describe food prior to moving to Korea, but I hear it used almost every time when a Korean person wants to say that something tastes good. The first time I heard it here, actually, I laughed out loud because it was so weird. Someone described some kind of wine to me as "DELICIOUS!" I was so surprised! ���ִ�


Over-reliance upon dictionaries, proliferation of bad English lessons, and limited usage of vocabulary within Korean parlance are probably to blame, but I'm just guessing, really.

To answer the OP question, no, I don't think I'd normally ever say "take a rest". The mountain climbing scenario offered by crazykiwi is conceivable, but even then I'm not sure I'd say "take a", or even "rest". I'd probably say, "Let's sit down," or, "Let's stop for a minute."

Q.
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't ask me, I've been here too long.
All I know is that I'm han-some, gentle, have good wear concept, and when my students see me, they're funny.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HapKi wrote:
Don't ask me, I've been here too long.
All I know is that I'm han-some, gentle, have good wear concept, and when my students see me, they're funny.


This almost makes me think you are wellbing.
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
This almost makes me think you are wellbing.

so so.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:

* My favorite over-used word is "delicious". That's something I rarely used to describe food prior to moving to Korea, but I hear it used almost every time when a Korean person wants to say that something tastes good. The first time I heard it here, actually, I laughed out loud because it was so weird. Someone described some kind of wine to me as "DELICIOUS!" I was so surprised! ���ִ�


This rings so true for me now, but only after having been told so by recent immigrants. I have an unfortunate habit of adapting rather too well to the spoken culture of wherever I live. When I lived in the states, after a couple of months I sounded like a Yank. After spending a year in Australia, Australians I met in other parts of the world thought I was Australian. After living in Scotland, I was frequently mistaken for being Scottish. I'm none of these things. And I hate people who pretend to be what they're not. But I seem to do it unconsciously..

Anyway, after I'd been here for a year and a half a buddy from home moved to Korea (because I told him to). One of the first things he said to me after one of his first meals in Korea was "Why did you just say that meal was 'delicious'?" and I, not understanding the implication and assuming he'd not enjoyed the meal, said "Umm because I like it and it tasted good? Whats wrong with you.."

Anyway once he figured out that I'd somehow picked up the habit of calling all delicious food "delicious" he promptly took the piss out of me for a couple of weeks. Another couple of weeks after that... and its the only word he knows how to use to describe good tasting food.

Delicious is as delicious does. I don't know how I functioned without using the word 'delicious' for every meal I eat before I came to Korea. Of course now it comes with modifiers - "It's not delicious"; "It's quite delicious"; "It's very delicious"; "It's �� ��ŷ delicious etc."

P.S. I think I used that word to describe Dunhill Lights before I quit smoking, was that inappropriate?
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got it is perfectly natural to me.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
I got it is perfectly natural to me.


same here
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The Hierophant



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Take a rest, as a friend, as an old Memoria. Memoria. Memoria."
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
have good wear concept



Good to know you are wearing well, HapKi.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds fine to a Canadian.
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a palace tour sometime. Just about every second spot the guide shows you used to be used as a "resting place". Makes me wonder how Joseon rulers ever got anything done.
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Zoidberg



Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was frequently told that I should buy many beautiful wear.
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