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Nowon SLP: is it a good school?
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Harvard Material



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:18 pm    Post subject: Nowon slp... Reply with quote

'Weirdo post'...humm. Actually, I find "...watching teachers both in and out of the classroom", kind of 'weird'.

The full run-down? Why don't you post it? Post who exactly said what exactly.

So, if I call Nowon slp and ask to speak with the 'new' manager, I will be connected with a New Zealand manager, right? Right.
Tomorrow is a holiday. You people have the day off?

You have been at slp for - what? a week?? - and you already know who is crazy...from what practical strangers have said to you? Sure you will make an exceptional judge for the present ESL staff.

I will reiterate my main points to you joseg; what training/background do you have in teacher evaluation? What is 'watching teachers both in and out of class' have to do with making a good buck? How do you do this? You follow your co-workers around before and after work, and base an assumption on their ability to teach from the information gathered outside of work; at a restaurant? A Bar? A PC bang? That isn't weird?

Come on joseg! If you are truly working as the manager at Nowon slp post your name, and the supervisor's name, so there can be a bit of substance to your remarks. Stick up for that 'fine' learning establishment by submitting viable statements, instead of fluff.
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Anda



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:29 pm    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

Um

"Hey Harvard Material, after showing the owner and supervisor of Nowon SLP your weirdo post I got the full run down on who they think you might be. Woohoo buddy, sounds like you are one crazy enchilada. I think that I'll be giving ANYTHING you write on this board a huge swerve"


If you are for real and your idiot boss is for real then posting on how you treat your staff shows that you are both complete fools in reguard to PR. The only staff you would get to work would have to be really green. So tell me how does a business build up to where they can pay 3.5 mill a month to an idiot such as yourself employing green staff.?
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mack the knife



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: standing right behind you...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joseg,

Jesus H! are you telling me you went and cried to your boss about the ribbing we've been giving you?!!? oh. my. god. i don't know whether to sh*t or go blind. you'll fit right in at that school, well in.

it's becoming fast apparent that you are either thick or an *sshole (not simply an idiot or a troll, as i once thought). you are being asked by your boss (who is a confirmed *sshole--many would testify to this) to spy on the teachers (inside/outside of school). you are OK with that? i don't know about new zealand, but where i'm from you'd quickly pull a shank for pullin' sh*t like that.


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Jasmine



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Hongkers!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to work at Chunggye ECC next door to Nowon SLP and had plenty of friends who worked there. Isn't that the school that set up a secret video camera in a teacher's apartment, caught him smoking dope and had him deported!!! I had a very good friend who was working there and was made to share an apartment with two other guys. He was promised his own room - but one problem (!) it was a 2 bedroom apt...so one guy had to camp out in the living room all the time and never had any privacy. Nowon SLP is notorious and but not as a reputable school - do a search and you'll see they've been giving to the teaching staff there up the ass for quite some time. You couldn't pay ME 3.5 mil to work there.
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joseg



Joined: 07 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the warning guys, I will definitely be keeping my eyes open. I know that there are always two sides to a story and I am being very careful with how I progress. The bottom line is that I want/need to get paid. I have had some bad experiences in the past and am hoping that this will be a good one. I never said that I was watching teachers outside of the classroom, I don't know where Harvard Material got that idea, I only said that I got the feeling tha t this hogwan took an unhealthy interest in their employees extracuricular activities. But with all the basket cases that hagwan owners have to deal with, it's probably not a bad idea to know who's doing what and to whom. And one more thing, I may be from NZ but I'd be willing to be that all the big man posters on this board who are being so hard on me are probably from Hicksville Canada. Which is worse?
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI:

I just talked to someone that works at Nowan SLP and they said that there is no new supervisor working there.

Who are you Joseg? Are you for real or just a troll? I'm sending a link to this thread to some people at the school. Hopefully someone will have something sensible to say.

I'm left to believe that you are totoally full of BS......I just can't understand your motivation for making up a story like this? What benefit is there for doing so?
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Harvard Material



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 10:24 pm    Post subject: Nowon slp... Reply with quote

Hicksville Canada? O.K.. I don't suppose any American, Australian, New Zealander, Brit' 'big man posters' would disagree with you.

"But with all the basket cases hagwon owners have to deal with...", get a grip. What part of New Zealand are you from? Nowon??

The video tape scenario was garbage slp nonsense. It is all false. They would have destroyed that teacher's life if they had the chance. If it was true the 'cool' owner would have had the teacher accused of smoking-up jailed for a while, and deported.
Nobody was arrested, nobody was deported, nobody was smoking dope and if the management/director has stated such it is a lie.
That situation is not unlike what joseg has been proposing - garbage. Nowon slp's useless garbage.

joseg post; Tuesday, July 15th 2003 3:01 am..."I didn't know I'd have to start watching teachers. Seems like this place is pretty big on watching teachers both in and out of the classroom", is where I got the idea to say you were watching teachers. You stated watching teachers is a part of the company car/dry cleaning account/3.5 mill a month agreement between you and the 'cool' owner.

"...I only said that I got the feeling that this hakwon took an unhealthy interest in their employees extracuricular activities" (wrong - you included watching teachers was a part of your job description), followed up immediately with "...it's probably not a bad idea to know who's doing what and to whom" (suggesting you do not object to spying on co-workers for the 'cool' owner).

"The owner's cool, the supervisor is great..." Shocked
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joseg



Joined: 07 May 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kylehawkins2000 wrote:
FYI:

I just talked to someone that works at Nowan SLP and they said that there is no new supervisor working there.

Good one champ, this post proves that you are the ultimate troll. Grow up and stop wasting everyone's time. What's your motivation for trying to discredit me? That's a far more interesting question. If you've got time, why not come up and pay me a visit after work, I'd love to have a "chat" with you.
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Harvard Material



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:54 pm    Post subject: Nowon slp... Reply with quote

That's very noble of you joseg. Even necessary at this point, I would say.

For the record, I'll show up with Kyle if we can arrange a meeting time next week. I'll pm him. Maybe a few others would like to show up as well. Past staff still in town, and maybe a few curious eslcafe users. Seems we have been given an open invitation.

Do we simply ask for joseg when we get to the institute, or do you have a name?
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joseg



Joined: 07 May 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate, you're nuts. I have no beef with you and don't know why you're sticking your nose into something that doesn't concern you. Take a moment to read your posts, have you no self-respect?
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Joseg, I stand behind what I said. I think you're a fake. PM if you like and we can arrange something.
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joseg



Joined: 07 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care what you think. I look forward to you, Haravard Material and the rest of your weirdo posse kicking our door down to complain about my use of the company car and dry cleaning account, should make for an interesting Friday afternoon.
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not about to waste my time going out there. I just thought that your story sounded fishy so I called and asked one of the employees if there was a new supervisor working there. The answer was no. So I'm left wondering who you are.

It seems really strange to me but I'm not about to waste a friday evening by travelling way the heck out to Nowan just to see if you are for real.

Your accusation of me being a troll is absolute BS. I've been posting here for a few years. I'm sure that most of the regular posters are well aware that I am not a troll.
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 2:01 am    Post subject: hmm Reply with quote

Joseg has been posting bs posts on the enforcecorp thread. What a jerk. Just trying to get people riled up.
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joseg



Joined: 07 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: hmm Reply with quote

ulsanchris wrote:
Joseg has been posting bs posts on the enforcecorp thread. What a jerk. Just trying to get people riled up.
Mate, you really are a simpleton. Just because I was deliberately misquoted on another thread doesn't mean I'm a troll. You're a scared little git; wake up to yourself and get a grip. Tosser
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