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Rooney on World Cup casualty list
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whitebeagle



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when has looking like a potato been a crime Question Smile
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ticktock



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whitebeagle wrote:
Since when has looking like a potato been a crime Question Smile


Good man! Wink Laughing
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Endesu



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main reason why the bookies have England as second favourites is because most of the bets are placed in the UK!

Living in the UK over the last few months has taught me that Brits are not the most realistic people when it comes to expectations... But then again, they have probably never had a better team than they do today. But without Rooney, and with Owen not in top form, they cannot be expected to win it. And for me, if Rooney doesnt play, thats one less attraction in the World Cup. He is so exciting to watch, a real gem, only matched by Ronaldinho these days.

Too bad if he cant play!
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Rooney on World Cup casualty list Reply with quote

ticktock wrote:
trigger123 wrote:
hermes.trismegistus wrote:
whitebeagle wrote:
But unfortunately I think we really need Roo to have any kind of stab at winning the thing Crying or Very sad


"Winning the thing"?

Do you smoke crack?

If you think the UK can take Brazil, all I have to say is Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Namaste.


do you?


Trigger123, the dude's only telling it like it is, no need to get touchy about it....sure you're English, patriotic and proud, we get that but sometimes it's ok to acknowledge that there are better teams out there.....


Take a look back at the letters in bold and if you have half a brain and know anything about football you'll see trigger's point.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Rooney on World Cup casualty list Reply with quote

whitebeagle wrote:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/story/0,,1764568,00.html

This does not look good! I know some teams can become galvanized and able to raise their game and thrive when a star is absent (Ireland in WC 2002, Teenwolf movie basketball team at the end of the movie). But unfortunately I think we really need Roo to have any kind of stab at winning the thing Crying or Very sad


Cole's effort on saturday is ample reason for me to believe that he could fill Roo's boots to some extent. Having players the calibre of Him, Lamps and Gerrard in the middle of the park means all is not lost. Rest the pie scoffer till the 1/4s and let the others step up.
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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a devastating to blow to England. With our good midfield +Roon up front, we're one of the favorites to get to the semis. Without Roon, Owen and Ashley Cole, we're weakened significantly. Actually, just goes to show how over-reliant we are on young Rooney.
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hermes.trismegistus



Joined: 08 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Rooney on World Cup casualty list Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
Take a look back at the letters in bold and if you have half a brain and know anything about football you'll see trigger's point.


I already acknowledged my mistake. Perhaps you didn't read the subsequent comments?

whitebeagle wrote:
[hermes.trismegistus] [...] is trying to get a rise out of English posters by putting down England[.]


Not at all. If saying that other teams seem more probable than your preferred team gets a rise out of you, you probably have misplaced priorities.

Feel free to blast away at the team I think likely to win the Cup (Brazil). I couldn't care less.

Sports provide entertainment, but they should never be allowed to illicit uncontrolled emotional response. The world has many issues far more worthy of our frustration.

Namaste.
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ticktock



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Rooney on World Cup casualty list Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
ticktock wrote:
trigger123 wrote:
hermes.trismegistus wrote:
whitebeagle wrote:
But unfortunately I think we really need Roo to have any kind of stab at winning the thing Crying or Very sad


"Winning the thing"?

Do you smoke crack?

If you think the UK can take Brazil, all I have to say is Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Namaste.


do you?


Trigger123, the dude's only telling it like it is, no need to get touchy about it....sure you're English, patriotic and proud, we get that but sometimes it's ok to acknowledge that there are better teams out there.....


Take a look back at the letters in bold and if you have half a brain and know anything about football you'll see trigger's point.


Oh I saw the bold letters and Trigger's point but chose to ignore it and just went ahead and had a go at Trigger cos I just wanted to aggrevate him (cos Trigger likes that kind of stuff the saucy minx! grrrr Wink ) So mind your own business and do continue crying over the spilt milk that is spotty Rooney's metatarsal... Laughing
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, shouldn't bite but will. Was thinking today about the makeup of the rest of the team. Then I got thinking about 98 and the fact that France won it without a decent striker. I then realized there is some true quality in the middle of the park for England, you can read the rest about what I said regarding young Joey Cole up the page a bit. Spinozolino hit the nail on the head when he said we were too over reliant on Rooney and that makes me think that we might just have an opportunity here, in the most Chinese sense of the word. I also made the point of checking with the bookie after my celebratory hangover from Chelski's double had worn off and saw they are still second favourite at 6-1. Those greedy pricks don't miss a beat so obviously there is still something there to justify that price.
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whitebeagle



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. Erikkson having to plan his team without Rooney (as Ferguson has pretty much confirmed today) could be a blessing in disguise. He has to be creative and look for goals and leadership from the rest of the team. Owen minus match sharpness is obviously not enough. But England does have plenty of firepower in midfield with players who can push up if required to do so. Its not the kind of start to the WC that anyone would have chosen but it could prove to be the kick up the arse that was needed for Eng to go the extra yard.
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trigger123



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing hehehehe, my old foe ticktock... Laughing

well, its not where you're from its where you're at. shame that hermes.trismegistus is from somewhere that don't do footy and is in the wrong too... "(sport should) never be allowed to illicit uncontrolled emotional response"?! hahaha, whatever. don't bother posting here anymore then!

sport matters. so does world hunger, aids, war, hole in the ozone... but here we're talking FOOTBALL. and ENGLAND. and ROONEY. and the WORLD CUP.

rooney and england. if he's not fit he shouldn't go in my opinion. he's a major major loss, but i have to agree with jagnath, it may mean the others have to step up and we do have a squad to compare with the others. he's in the oxygen tank as we speak, but i can't see it happening. so we have the squad, but do we have the manager? thats another story...

so. Brazil. well if you ignore the nike merchandising machine and actually look at the players you should see a team with one outstanding player, and quite a few out of it. yes, you-know-who is awesome, but their other 10 just haven't performed this year. ronaldo's fat, cafu and carlos are old, roque junior is out of form at munich, dida at milan hasn't performed. robinho? nothing special. adriano is fat. sure, they usually turn up and do well at the tournaments, but don't believe the hype just yet.

my pick for the summer? argentina. hate to say it but there you go...
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whitebeagle wrote:
I agree. Erikkson having to plan his team without Rooney (as Ferguson has pretty much confirmed today) could be a blessing in disguise. He has to be creative and look for goals and leadership from the rest of the team. Owen minus match sharpness is obviously not enough. But England does have plenty of firepower in midfield with players who can push up if required to do so. Its not the kind of start to the WC that anyone would have chosen but it could prove to be the kick up the arse that was needed for Eng to go the extra yard.


I'm not totally convinced that Fergie's views are 100% correct. From his pov he would not want to see Roon go to the WC. Erikkson is at the other end of the spectrum and the eternal optimist. I say take him if there is a slight chance as having him half fit coming off the bench would be better than a hundred fully fit Peter Crouches.
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LL Moonmanhead



Joined: 21 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
Meh, shouldn't bite but will. Was thinking today about the makeup of the rest of the team. Then I got thinking about 98 and the fact that France won it without a decent striker. I then realized there is some true quality in the middle of the park for England, you can read the rest about what I said regarding young Joey Cole up the page a bit. Spinozolino hit the nail on the head when he said we were too over reliant on Rooney and that makes me think that we might just have an opportunity here, in the most Chinese sense of the word. I also made the point of checking with the bookie after my celebratory hangover from Chelski's double had worn off and saw they are still second favourite at 6-1. Those greedy pricks don't miss a beat so obviously there is still something there to justify that price.


Did I miss something?? Chelsea, double?? Back to back titles maybe, but a double that do not make.

And anyone who thinks rooney will play in the WC is a loon.

If gormless ericsson rushes him back and *beeps* him up for next season Manchester United should sue.

At least ingerlunders now have a ready made excuse when the team gets shown up against quality as per usual.

I do feel so sorry for Rooney though.
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LL Moonmanhead wrote:
jaganath69 wrote:
Meh, shouldn't bite but will. Was thinking today about the makeup of the rest of the team. Then I got thinking about 98 and the fact that France won it without a decent striker. I then realized there is some true quality in the middle of the park for England, you can read the rest about what I said regarding young Joey Cole up the page a bit. Spinozolino hit the nail on the head when he said we were too over reliant on Rooney and that makes me think that we might just have an opportunity here, in the most Chinese sense of the word. I also made the point of checking with the bookie after my celebratory hangover from Chelski's double had worn off and saw they are still second favourite at 6-1. Those greedy pricks don't miss a beat so obviously there is still something there to justify that price.


Did I miss something?? Chelsea, double?? Back to back titles maybe, but a double that do not make.

And anyone who thinks rooney will play in the WC is a loon.

If gormless ericsson rushes him back and *beeps* him up for next season Manchester United should sue.

At least ingerlunders now have a ready made excuse when the team gets shown up against quality as per usual.

I do feel so sorry for Rooney though.


Yeah, fuggit, 14 hour days are killing me, my bad.
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whitebeagle



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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cometh the hour, cometh the (awkward, lolloping stick)man...
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