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Who supports the eradication of Christianity as a belief? |
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I don't |
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69% |
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Maybe, depending on conditions |
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12% |
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Maybe, without conditions |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Troll_Bait wrote: |
Don Gately wrote: |
For me, if Christianity was gone tomorrow stem-cell research would be federally funded by the US government tomorrow, and that's more than enough reason to support the "eradication" of Christianity.
I'm all for "live and let live" until your pie-in-the-sky starts getting in the way of real people with real problems here on the real Earth.
In a similar vein I would encourage Americans to go here and find the contact information for your congressperson, both senators and, yes, even your President and make clear to them that House Resolution 810 must pass, even if that means overriding a veto from our Zealot-in-Chief.
http://www.parkinson.org/site/pp.asp?c=9dJFJLPwB&b=71117
http://www.michaeljfox.org |
What's saddest of all is the fact that their opposition to stem-cell research has nothing to do with Judeo-Christian scripture.
They claim that the Bible tells them that life begins at conception.
It does not.
"The life of the flesh is in the blood" (Leviticus 17:11).
According to the Bible, life does not begin at conception, but about 18 days later, when the embryo is infused with blood and the heart begins to beat.
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Just curious, but did you happen to see this info in a recent CSI episode? Grissom mentioned it a couple weeks ago. |
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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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flakfizer:
No, though I also saw the CSI episode to which you are referring.
I think that I first heard about it though a letter by a devout Christian named Doyle Doss addressed to President George W. Bush.
I can't find a site with the letter, but here's one with a similar essay by the same author.
When Life Is
an alternate scriptural approach to embryonic stem cells
by Doyle Doss
Here is the original letter. I know that it might violate the rules in that it's too long, but I'm hoping for people's understanding.
When Life Begins? . . .An Open Letter to the President
In memory of Christopher Reeve
Dear Mr. President,
Embryonic stem cell research is dependent on the question of when is there life, as well it should be, for no one wants to commit murder. So this question of when there is life is basic to a furtherance of embryonic stem cell research and its possible medical benefits to our ill and aging population. I ask you, Mr. President, and the greater Christian community, and those who believe the Bible to be the inspired unfailing Word of God to prayerfully and diligent seek the truth of these words: "The life of the flesh is in the blood" (Leviticus 17:11).
I understand the Christian Faith to be based on blood:
The blood of Abel crying out from the ground and being heard by God is the first mention of blood in the Bible.
The first shedding of blood may have been by God when God provided skin coverings for Adam and Eve before their expulsion from the Garden.
God "passes over" the homes which have blood sprinkled on their doorposts and lintels in Egypt before the Exodus.
God teaches Moses the shedding, spilling, and sprinkling of blood as ritual sacrifices necessary for the atonement of sins and the purification of the priests and accessories for the tabernacle.
For thousands of years the Old Testament portion of the Bible chronicles countless blood sacrifices before and upon the altar of God in both the tabernacle and the Temple at Jerusalem.
And the prophets, speaking for God, gave many dire warnings of serious repercussions because of the shedding of innocent blood.
All this bloodshed, according to many Christian theologians, was necessary to "teach" the importance of shed blood for the remission of sins. This teaching culminating in the sacrifice of the Blood of Yeshua of Nazareth upon a cross, as so skillfully depicted by Mel Gibson in "The Passion of the Christ."
The idea of Christianity is, as I understand it, Mr. President, that by accepting the blood sacrifice of the Christ as a personal substitute for one뭩 own sinfulness, a person becomes reunited in their relationship with God and receives a new life based on this shed blood because, as the Bible teaches, "the life is in the blood" and "there is no remission of sins without the shedding of blood." So you, Mr. President, and millions of others, are Christians because of the life that is in the blood. It would seem to follow, that if there is no blood then there is no life.
My point being, Mr. President, that there is no blood in an embryo until many days after conception, and if there is no blood, and "the life is in the blood," then it would seem to follow that until there is blood there is no life. If this is true, then a bloodless embryo could be made available for research without incurring the wrath of God because of the shedding of innocent blood, since no blood is shed.
Mr. President, please do not mistake my intent. I do not condone murder nor wish to create a permissive climate for murder. If "the life is in the blood," then an abortion of a fetus with blood is murder and a government by the people and for the people should have no active or supportive role in murder. But if "the life is in the blood," then the use of a bloodless embryo in research to give hope and perhaps eventually cures to debilitating illnesses should be encouraged and supported by the same government.
In my opinion we may not have one without the other. If this rationale is correct, that "the life is in the blood," and we permit embryonic stem cell research on bloodless embryos, we must also end government participation in abortions involving a fetus with blood, for that fetus, by this rationale, has life.
Thank you, Mr. President, for your personal and prayerful consideration of this matter.
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