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JD Salinger, The Hermit Years

 
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Will we ever read new Salinger stories?
Yes, he's written like mad and one day we'll see it
45%
 45%  [ 5 ]
No, he's written a bunch of stories but they'll never be released to the general public
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
No, he's been watching TV and masturbating the whole time
27%
 27%  [ 3 ]
Sparkles picks his nose and eats it
27%
 27%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 11

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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:00 am    Post subject: JD Salinger, The Hermit Years Reply with quote

Because it's only a matter of time...
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Xerxes



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless he's gone in a new direction from the short stories and Catcher, who'd wanna read that. It's harder to reinvent yourself than one may think, especially if you'd had all the reinventing to revise and mull over in your isolation. The thing is, he may be so evolved away from what we originally liked (I suppose that only those that liked him would post or give a f*** about this all) that we may not even recognize the change as really him anymore, and if he's so changed, not that many people may actually want to read him, just like many people don't read a lot of the "new" (serious) writers.

He may have been a one-hit wonder like Joseph Heller. Heller wrote more too, but does anybody find his other writing very significant? I know I was really disappointed. I really liked Raymond Carver and Solzhenitsyn (mother, what a name!). I have to admit that I didn't read too much in the last 5 years.
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merlot



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be a perfect day for banana fish if Salinger ever publishes anything again. He is such a master of character-driven stories that I think I'd have to read whatever he put out just to try and see where his mind may have been all these years.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xerxes wrote:
He may have been a one-hit wonder like Joseph Heller. Heller wrote more too, but does anybody find his other writing very significant?


I didn't even like Catch-22.

Sparkles*_*
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Xerxes wrote:
He may have been a one-hit wonder like Joseph Heller. Heller wrote more too, but does anybody find his other writing very significant?


I didn't even like Catch-22.

Sparkles*_*

catch-22 has no concept of timelessness.

my complaint with it.. particurlarly since Tom Brokaw's 'the greatest generation' just has no resonance with me.]

catch-22 seems to embody that for me.
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Xerxes



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Xerxes wrote:
He may have been a one-hit wonder like Joseph Heller. Heller wrote more too, but does anybody find his other writing very significant?


I didn't even like Catch-22.

Sparkles*_*

catch-22 has no concept of timelessness.

my complaint with it.. particurlarly since Tom Brokaw's 'the greatest generation' just has no resonance with me.]

catch-22 seems to embody that for me.


Well, I do disagree and thought that it was one of the greatest yuck fests this side of the time the wheat went bad that one year. I do concede that there are other more "timeless" works. I don't think that a work should be judged on whether we as a distinct generation can relate with one particular work or not though. I do agree that that makes for more entertainment, but should that be the stick of measure?

I don't claim Heller's, the one, was just good for yucks, and I do oversimplify the work's merits by saying so. Do we really need to go into literary detailed discussion?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it being so dated is what is so great about it. Even the humor of that time is captured.

Funny.. the time I posted that is nearly 6am, which is about the time I came home last night after a long binge drink.

I should put a breathalizer on my computer.
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Xerxes



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can reference ole Tom after a night of sausing, that's not all bad. What you said was valid: Heller may very well be forgotten in just about one more generation, and that will be too bad for the major major major major and his crab-apple cheeky ilk.

I have a college buddy that owns like 10 copies of Catcher and swears by it for his daily communion to
BigBuds wrote:
Our bottle who art in heaven soju be thy name,...
.

The guy was actually a fairly intelligent sot too but cynical as hell.
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hear, hear, merlot.

"Catcher in the Rye" is shallow and trite, once through it was enough. The rest, however, especially the legacy of the Glass family, is nothing short of pure brilliance.
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skinhead



Joined: 11 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xerxes wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Xerxes wrote:
He may have been a one-hit wonder like Joseph Heller. Heller wrote more too, but does anybody find his other writing very significant?


I didn't even like Catch-22.

Sparkles*_*

catch-22 has no concept of timelessness.

my complaint with it.. particurlarly since Tom Brokaw's 'the greatest generation' just has no resonance with me.]

catch-22 seems to embody that for me.


Well, I do disagree and thought that it was one of the greatest yuck fests this side of the time the wheat went bad that one year. I do concede that there are other more "timeless" works. I don't think that a work should be judged on whether we as a distinct generation can relate with one particular work or not though. I do agree that that makes for more entertainment, but should that be the stick of measure?

I don't claim Heller's, the one, was just good for yucks, and I do oversimplify the work's merits by saying so. Do we really need to go into literary detailed discussion?
Quite so. Good call. Suited my antidiluvian brain right down to the ground.
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merlot



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ella wrote:
Hear, hear, merlot.

"Catcher in the Rye" is shallow and trite, once through it was enough. The rest, however, especially the legacy of the Glass family, is nothing short of pure brilliance.


I agree for the most part. But even while wallowing in shallow and trite, the characterization is brilliant.

I really like "Teddy" from Nine Stories.
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coolsage



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if Salinger has another book in him (and I have the same concern about Kurt Vonnegut), but I hope that his illegitmate son, Tom Robbins, will write something soon.
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't vote because there wasn't a category for 'Yeah, he has written some and someday we'll see it'. I don't think he has been writing like mad all these years. And as for what we'll see, maybe we'll like it and maybe we won't. I suspect it will be a mixed bag, like his earlier work. I never got into Catcher in the Rye, but really liked Raise High the Roofbeams, Carpenters.

As for Heller, I did like Catch-22, but Good as Gold was crap. Something Happened, though, was a disturbing book. I struggled with it, stopping reading and picking it up again over a period of years. It was such a tough read, a novel about the banality of the life of the narrator, but something kept bringing me back to it. When I did finally get through it, I appreciated how Heller had written it so flatly in order to increase the effect of the single moment of powerful emotion in the novel. But it's not a book I'll go back to again.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read Catcher when it was still banned. The copy I had had had the cover torn off. I remember walking down the hall at school and wondering if my foot was going to touch the floor. Read it again years later and couldn't recapture the feeling. But I guess once is enough.

I think Catch 22 is brilliant. It spoke to a lot of people during Vietnam. It might be dated like some say, but I don't see it. I suspect it will continue to speak to those who find themselves in a similar situation. It might have helped that Major Major Major Major seems to have become a school guidance counselor in a small Iowa high school after the war--we could only get in to see him when he wasn't there. We had to get a pass for a specific time and leave a note telling what info we wanted. The books would be on his desk and he would be gone. Something Happened is one of the books at the top of my favorite books list. Try reading it when you are past 40 and your life isn't where you expected it to be.
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