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jade
Joined: 01 May 2005
Location: seoul
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 Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: Are there any non teachers here? |
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I have not seen this question asked before on Dave's  I know there are a lot of former teachers who have changed there careers. Is there anybody on here who has never been an English teacher. Can you tell us what you do for work  |
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tacon101
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Location: seoul
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yep
other form of work |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| I worked as a teacher for a year and then got a job as a web content developer for a Korean ESL website. Similar industry but different approach. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Definitely a non-teacher.
Many years ago though I was a part-time lecturer in construction law at Cambridge. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Teacher and non-teacher at the same time...  |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Some people would say there's LOTS of non teachers here...
I'm not one of them...( that works both ways doesn't it...) |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| I've heard a wild rumour that Jongroguro isn't an ESL teacher. But he doesn't like to mention it. |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: |
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How do you get a job working at Everland? I was wondering about that since seeing all the foreigners in the parades there. Anyone know? Wonder if pay is good?  |
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Lemonade
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Most of the people here in Korea "teaching" "English" don't have the credentials back home to teach. Therefore, they cannot be called "teachers." Most of them call themselves, "babysitters." Futhermore, it's absurd that they allow their students to call them "teacher" when they aren't "really" teachers at all.
FYI, this goes to the heart of the matter concerning such people who condemn university "professors" for calling themselves "professors." I didn't start this bashing, you did. Fair is fair. Have a taste.... |
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Natalia
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Lemonade wrote: |
Most of the people here in Korea "teaching" "English" don't have the credentials back home to teach. Therefore, they cannot be called "teachers." Most of them call themselves, "babysitters." Futhermore, it's absurd that they allow their students to call them "teacher" when they aren't "really" teachers at all.
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If only I could get the kids to stop calling me 'teeeeeeechaaaaaaaa'. Boy it would be blissful at work. Usually they call out, "teacher!" and have nothing to follow it with. I think they just like the word.
And, credentals or no credentials, at least most of us have a basic grasp of English, unlike most of the Korean English teachers.  |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Lemonade wrote: |
Most of the people here in Korea "teaching" "English" don't have the credentials back home to teach. Therefore, they cannot be called "teachers." Most of them call themselves, "babysitters." Futhermore, it's absurd that they allow their students to call them "teacher" when they aren't "really" teachers at all.
FYI, this goes to the heart of the matter concerning such people who condemn university "professors" for calling themselves "professors." I didn't start this bashing, you did. Fair is fair. Have a taste.... |
While I agree with the essence of your statement above (I'm a very far cry from a professor) I have to point out that what you have suggested is that Koreans are unable to define for themselves what constitutes a "teacher". Apparently, according to you, one must fulfill the requirements of "X" Western nation (requirements that are designed not to increase teacher quality, but to restrict the number of people who can be teachers so that wages are artificially high) if one is to be allowed to use the title of teacher without suffering a condescending post from you.
I believe that at my university, my official title is "visiting lecturer". Will you allow them to define for themselves what is a lecturer, or can only Westerners do that?
If someones job title is "teacher" I'm fairly comfortable with that person using their given title to describe what they do.
The bigger question is why do you seem to be so darn upset about it? |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Obviously you have not been through teacher training. What a deeply odd sentiment. I dissagree with the first part, and challenge you to show me why teacher training is not designed to increase teacher quality. As to the second part, obviously this idea failed miserably because teacher salaries are certainly not high. |
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Tarheel13
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Location: North Carolina
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: Satori...right on! |
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| I was about to pick up on the flawed logic of BJWD when you beat me to the punch. Obviously, the lad had a difficult time somewhere down the education road. |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| How do you get a job working at Everland? I was wondering about that since seeing all the foreigners in the parades there. Anyone know? Wonder if pay is good? |
Are you Russian? That's the main qualification. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| zappadelta wrote: |
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| How do you get a job working at Everland? I was wondering about that since seeing all the foreigners in the parades there. Anyone know? Wonder if pay is good? |
Are you Russian? That's the main qualification. |
Being Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Moldovian or South African also works (I used to live next door, and mingled with that crew.) It's not a job you'd do unless conditions back home were absolute crap. They live in tiny apartments, 2 or 3 to a room, without kitchen facilities. They're not paid well, they work 6 days a week, they're forced to bleach their hair blond, and they are subjected to regular drug screenings (much to the dismay of my friend, the Rastafarian acrobat.)
What I found really weird when I visited Everland on Friday night were the broad, twinkling smiles on all those Eastern Europeans. On the street and in person, they're quite surly, but it's all giggles and fun when they're on the job. |
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