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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:32 am    Post subject: solve and explain Reply with quote

Five years ago a woman was six times as old as her son.
Four years from now, she will be three times as old as the boy.
The age of the son is _________ now.

A co-worker sent me this and I know the answer, but I got in a stupid way (plugging in random numbers until something worked) -- can anybody show me how to work this out in actual steps using actual logic?
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Lizara



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

y is the woman's current age, x is the son's current age...

y-5=6(x-5)
y+4=3(x+4)

y-5=6x-30
y+4=3x+12

y=6x-25
y=3x+8

6x-25=3x+8

3x=33

x=11
y=3x+8=41

Fear my uberl33t algebra skills! woo!
/sarcasm
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lizara wrote:
y is the woman's current age, x is the son's current age...

y-5=6(x-5)
y+4=3(x+4)

y-5=6x-30
y+4=3x+12

y=6x-25
y=3x+8

6x-25=3x+8

3x=33

x=11
y=3x+8=41

Fear my uberl33t algebra skills! woo!
/sarcasm


Nice-uh!
Yep, that's what I woulda done.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the equation would look like this:

6(x - 5) = 3(x + 4)

But I dont know how you'd solve for x -- I flunked math.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nerds.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
Maybe the equation would look like this:

6 X (x - 5) = 3 X (x + 4)

But I dont know how you'd solve for x -- flunked math.


Oooh, snazzy. Let me have a look at that...

Okay, wait. There's a much easier way.
I'm working on it. I just made it work, then utterly confuzzled myself. Give me another minute.

Yep, I pretty much had the son's age at -3. I'm a freakin' genius.


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kermo



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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
Maybe the equation would look like this:

6(x - 5) = 3(x + 4)

But I dont know how you'd solve for x -- I flunked math.


Okay- that didn't work because the brackets are in the wrong place. I tried something similar, but then I looked at Brainy Smurf over there (Lizara) and realized that her son's age isn't a constant. It changes when her age changes. Duh.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
schwa wrote:
Maybe the equation would look like this:

6 X (x - 5) = 3 X (x + 4)

But I dont know how you'd solve for x -- flunked math.


Oooh, snazzy. Let me have a look at that...

Okay, wait. There's a much easier way.
I'm working on it. I just made it work, then utterly confuzzled myself. Give me another minute.


I'm stealing this word.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: solve and explain Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:
Five years ago a woman was six times as old as her son.
Four years from now, she will be three times as old as the boy.
The age of the son is _________ now.

A co-worker sent me this and I know the answer, but I got in a stupid way (plugging in random numbers until something worked) -- can anybody show me how to work this out in actual steps using actual logic?


It's simultaneous equations.

x = the woman's age
y = her son's age

x - 5 = 6(y - 5) --> x = 6y - 25
x + 4 = 3(y + 4) --> x = 3y + 8

Hence, 6y - 25 = 3y + 8 --> 3y = 33 --> y = 11

That makes x = 41

The woman is 41 now and her son is 11.

[edit]Oh I see while I was working that out about 6 people posted. Confused [/edit]
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midgic



Joined: 14 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

6(x - 5) = 3(x + 4)


If x is the son's age now:

6(x - 5) = the woman's age five years ago

3(x + 4) = the woman's age four years from now

The woman's age five years ago PLUS NINE = the woman's age four years from now...

So, 6(x - 5) + 9 = 3(x + 4)

6x -30 + 9 = 3x + 12

3x - 21 = 12

3x = 33

x = 11

So, the son's age now is 11.
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, midgic, cause I thought I'd lost my mind with people posting that 41 is three times more than 11!!!
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