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Immigration & Transcripts - wish me luck

 
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G_Pee11



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Immigration & Transcripts - wish me luck Reply with quote

Hey everyone.....

I'm about to send my transcripts to Immigration in Korea, and this should give them everything I need in order to process my E2. From what I can tell, my transcripts seem to be sealed and official. They didn't use actual ink to stamp over the seal, but there is an outline of a seal with a signature over it, that's good enough isn't it? My guess is that it's standard not to stamp all over an official school envelope in ink?

Does anyone know when Immigration decided to start asking for "sealed" transcripts, and for what purpose they make us go through the hassle of getting them the transripts only to hear that they deny a good portion of them? It's not like my gpa, whether high or low, and my major concentration of study is going to play a factor in to whether or not I get my visa will it?

This is probably just another classic case of the government, or some other organization, trying to make life more difficult for the rest of us. In turn, they probably get less applications to process which creates less work for them, because if they really wanted to prove if an applicant studied at the university their degree is issued from, there is a much more efficient way of doing it.

Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to get my 2-cents in.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really feel the need go to a stamp store and pick up a stamp saying "sealed"...stamp it across the back of the envelope and it will most likely do the job.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Immigration & Transcripts - wish me luck Reply with quote

G_Pee11 wrote:
Hey everyone.....

I'm about to send my transcripts to Immigration in Korea, and this should give them everything I need in order to process my E2. From what I can tell, my transcripts seem to be sealed and official. They didn't use actual ink to stamp over the seal, but there is an outline of a seal with a signature over it, that's good enough isn't it? My guess is that it's standard not to stamp all over an official school envelope in ink?

Does anyone know when Immigration decided to start asking for "sealed" transcripts, and for what purpose they make us go through the hassle of getting them the transripts only to hear that they deny a good portion of them? It's not like my gpa, whether high or low, and my major concentration of study is going to play a factor in to whether or not I get my visa will it?

This is probably just another classic case of the government, or some other organization, trying to make life more difficult for the rest of us. In turn, they probably get less applications to process which creates less work for them, because if they really wanted to prove if an applicant studied at the university their degree is issued from, there is a much more efficient way of doing it.

Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to get my 2-cents in.


Actually it is NOT "just another classic case"...

It is a direct result of the roundup, arrest and deporation of illegal, foreign teachers with fake and forged documents last fall.

Another thank you to the illegals and backpackers. One more hoop to jump through.
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Njord



Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, this is seriously irritating. The first time I sent my transcripts, I just ordered them from my university and sent them off. The envelope had this special strip of perferation and "TAMPER PROOF SEAL" written all over it. Inside, there is an address, phone number, and website where you can contact someone at the university and have the transcript confirmed. Sounds easy, right?

Nope. After several calls to immigration from myself and my recruiter, it turns out that they will not call the university and they will not accept the transcripts. So I go back to my University and request that they sign and stamp the envelope. Sounds easy, right?

Nope. My (very large) university doesn't like to put all manner of random stuff on their transcripts - if they did, someone would probably have to be doing this all day. And they are just particular about their procedures. For special requests, I need a letter from Korean immigration.

Well, Korean immigration does not write letters like this. So I got a letter from my prospective employer and after a discussion with some university officials, they eventually agreed to accomodate my request. Still, nobody actually signed anything. They just used a signature stamp, but this turned out to be acceptable.

ttompatz - I think this account demonstrates that the policy has little to do with illegal foreign teachers. If they were really concerned about that, they would have just called my university. It is indeed a case of the government (and my university, I should add) making life difficult for the rest of us. And we have a right to complain and be frustrated about it. Of course, if we want to work in Korea we have to comply with whatever Korean immigration wants. But nobody disputes that.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Njord wrote:

ttompatz - I think this account demonstrates that the policy has little to do with illegal foreign teachers. If they were really concerned about that, they would have just called my university. It is indeed a case of the government (and my university, I should add) making life difficult for the rest of us. And we have a right to complain and be frustrated about it. Of course, if we want to work in Korea we have to comply with whatever Korean immigration wants. But nobody disputes that.


No, I said it was a direct result of that.... now that the animal is out of the cage, typical Korean bureaucracy will take on a life of its own and because most of them have NO CLUE about life outside of Korea will screw things up in their own particular fashion.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Njord wrote:

ttompatz - I think this account demonstrates that the policy has little to do with illegal foreign teachers. .



Actually Immigration has said that this policy (of requiring transcripts) was because of illegal foreign teachers. There was a big discussion about this last year when this policy became first known, and somebody posted a link to an article where they had an Immigration official discussing the need for transcripts and why. Illegal foreign teachers were the reason given why.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urban Myth...will you ever stop typing and let some of these threads alone? No, the whole thing is bureaucratic and doesn't have anything to do with illegal teachers. Has the illegality stopped? I seriously doubt it. Also, the sheer stupidity of having to have tamper proof, school president signatures...hell, I'm surprised that they aren't asking for a body part of the school Prez. No, it all has to do with the dirty white devils that play with K-girls. That is the problem. Of course, Korea wants to maintain their image(chortle, chortle) and cannot state that as the reason. Hence, the "illegal" teachers prattle which sounds more justified and makes it look like they are fighting against something. Urban Myth, stop kissing this country's ass...I know that getting a job here is the greatest thing in your life and that you think that posting on an irrelevant job discussion forum is the most fabulous little thing that you can do...but let off on responding to every freakin' post. It's irritating. Very irritating...
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