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campfun
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
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 Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:04 am Post subject: Qutting my job - Need advice! |
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I'm quitting my job before my contract is finished and I have two questions.
First, I paid a "housing management deposit" in my first three months. The contract says I would get it back at the end of my contract, but nothing about quitting early. Is it hopeless to think I will still get it back?
Secondly, my current director says that my new director has to request my letter of release herself, that I can't request it. Is this true?
Thanks for your help. |
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braunshade
Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Location: Somewhere better!
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:15 am Post subject: |
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I doubt you will get your housing deposit back. Just do not ever pay one again in your next job!
I believe that your director is incorrect about the letter of release. I bet if you got the help of the Labour Office, you will not get screwed that hard. Try and do it yourself- then your director will take complete advantage of you. Thats just the way the Koreans who operate hogwans are. |
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Lemonade
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: |
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How much was this "housing management deposit?" If it's a substantial amount of money, you could report that to the labor board and they might try to force them to pay you back. Your employer shouldn't have taken that out of your pay in the first place. It's not standard in Korea.
The director is the one who writes the LOR. It doesn't matter which director writes the LOR just as long as immigration gets a copy. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: Re: Qutting my job - Need advice! |
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| campfun wrote: |
| I paid a "housing management deposit" in my first three months. The contract says I would get it back at the end of my contract, but nothing about quitting early. Is it hopeless to think I will still get it back? |
That deposit has a specific purpose -- to cover late bills or any structural damage to the premises. Nothing to do with completing the contract. It sounds like you've given notice & youre leaving on at least speaking terms with the management. They have no legal or ethical reason to withhold that money if your bills & apartment are in order. Insist on getting it back. |
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campfun
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| I am leaving on decent terms. At least in my mind. I gave him two weeks notice and he then asked for 4, which I accepted. I think I have been trying to handle this situation fairly and professionally with him. The deposit is quite large - 600,000. I will contact the labor board tomorrow. Thank you for your advice. |
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crystal
Joined: 04 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| I am leaving on decent terms. At least in my mind. I gave him two weeks notice and he then asked for 4, which I accepted. I think I have been trying to handle this situation fairly and professionally with him. The deposit is quite large - 600,000. I will contact the labor board tomorrow. Thank you for your advice. |
Have you asked the boss whether you will get it back or not? If you are leaving on decent terms as you say then you should get it back, it's a housing deposit so once you move out of your apartment and as long as there is no damage or outstanding bills then he should return it to you |
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anyway
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| I just went through this letter of release bs with my boss. He told me it would be impossible for him to write a letter of release even though I was giving him my 30 days notice. I told him I wasn't going back to work until he had the letter in my hand. After a little sit down strike, he saw things my way. Your boss is simply worried you will bolt once you have the letter. I think it is somewhat common to pre-date the letter for the last day of employment. Luck... |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Qutting my job - Need advice! |
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| campfun wrote: |
I'm quitting my job before my contract is finished and I have two questions.
First, I paid a "housing management deposit" in my first three months. The contract says I would get it back at the end of my contract, but nothing about quitting early. Is it hopeless to think I will still get it back?
Secondly, my current director says that my new director has to request my letter of release herself, that I can't request it. Is this true?
Thanks for your help. |
I was in a similar position to you exactly one year ago. First, your new director does not need to request an LOR. Your current one can just go Immigration with you, submit one him / herself, and cancel your visa. What he / she's saying is complete BS, and he / she may be trying to *beep* you over.
Second, you can always go to the labour board later if you don't get the deposit money back. I got mine back, because the director knew that I could *beep* him over (I had a list of all the parents' numbers and was quite ready to start calling them with a bilingual friend, giving them my honest opinion of the place). |
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Passing through
Joined: 06 May 2006
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:08 am Post subject: Re: Qutting my job - Need advice! |
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| campfun wrote: |
First, I paid a "housing management deposit" in my first three months. The contract says I would get it back at the end of my contract, but nothing about quitting early. Is it hopeless to think I will still get it back?
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That would have to depend on the employer. The guy that I replaced was fired and still got his (W500,000) deposit back.
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campfun
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| My boss is now saying that "he'll think about" giving me my letter of release. Can he really NOT give me one? My manager says he has to by law. Is that true? Or can he just decide not to? |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| campfun wrote: |
| My boss is now saying that "he'll think about" giving me my letter of release. Can he really NOT give me one? My manager says he has to by law. Is that true? Or can he just decide not to? |
Well I've heard that they can refuse, but I heard somewhere that that's not true. I think that you could probably force him to somehow.
They can't keep your deposit. Don't even think that. It's your money and it's the end of the contract. |
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jangsalgida
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
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| campfun wrote: |
| My boss is now saying that "he'll think about" giving me my letter of release. Can he really NOT give me one? My manager says he has to by law. Is that true? Or can he just decide not to? |
Well I've heard that they can refuse, but I heard somewhere that that's not true. I think that you could probably force him to somehow.
They can't keep your deposit. Don't even think that. It's your money and it's the end of the contract. |
They don't have to do anything. How would you suggest "forcing" them to do something. They don't have to pay back the deposit either. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| jacl wrote: |
| campfun wrote: |
| My boss is now saying that "he'll think about" giving me my letter of release. Can he really NOT give me one? My manager says he has to by law. Is that true? Or can he just decide not to? |
Well I've heard that they can refuse, but I heard somewhere that that's not true. I think that you could probably force him to somehow.
They can't keep your deposit. Don't even think that. It's your money and it's the end of the contract. |
They don't have to do anything. How would you suggest "forcing" them to do something. They don't have to pay back the deposit either. |
Well, the tax or pension office could come into the game and be used as threats to get the LOR. Or he could stand in front of his boss with the LOR and not budge until he signs it. Or he could get his boss to go to immigration with him somehow and have him provide the proof that he no longer works for that school.
Why don't they have to pay back the deposit? I suppose that the employer could refuse to give it back and ignore the employee like a baby. Maybe they could make false claims that he caused damage to the apartment and that he has outstanding bills. If the claims are false then the employee is legally entitled to get his money back. |
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