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igotthisguitar
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Odds Bush Actually "Won" 2004 Election - 1 In 450,000
Published on Thursday, June 1, 2006 by Rolling Stone magazine
Was the 2004 Election Stolen?
Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House.
by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0601-34.htm |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
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The MYTH of VOTER FRAUD in Ohio
by James Gatz, Mon May 29, 2006 at 06:15:54 PM EST
If you're one of those progressive blog enthusiasts who is confident in their knowledge that George W. Bush STOLE the 2004 election, |
Not one point in that pile of crap had anything to do with the evidence presented about voter fraud. Good work, joo. Per usual, you answered evidence with partisan ranting. |
the guy was someone who voted for Dean.
Yep you are so left wing you would not fit into the democratic party. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Joo, what that article does not mention is the shredding of Democrat voters's registration forms or the fact that Republicans prevented a non-partisan group from helping unregistered voters to properly fill out the forms needed to get a provisional ballot on election day. |
and voter fraud in the state of Wisconsin by the Democratic side.
Also Bush did better in just about every state the second time around .
He won by 3.5 million votes. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
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| ...Sure, there isn't any evidence that it was a widespread conspiracy, but there is more than enough evidence that some Republicans acted unethically. |
Well said.
It is also clear that in most elections, whereever they might occur, some amount of fraud occurs.
Elections, like everything else made by humans, are imperfect and oftentimes problematic things. |
Thus, it's all OK.
American, my ass. Oh, wait, you really don't give a damn. My bad, you ARE American. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
The MYTH of VOTER FRAUD in Ohio
by James Gatz, Mon May 29, 2006 at 06:15:54 PM EST
If you're one of those progressive blog enthusiasts who is confident in their knowledge that George W. Bush STOLE the 2004 election, |
Not one point in that pile of crap had anything to do with the evidence presented about voter fraud. Good work, joo. Per usual, you answered evidence with partisan ranting. |
the guy was someone who voted for Dean.
Yep you are so left wing you would not fit into the democratic party. |
Riiiiight. That's why I personally oppose abortion, but am pro-choice. You're an idiot. What is the logical connection between who he supported and the logic, or logical fallacies, of his arguments? Rhetorical question. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Joo, what that article does not mention is the shredding of Democrat voters's registration forms or the fact that Republicans prevented a non-partisan group from helping unregistered voters to properly fill out the forms needed to get a provisional ballot on election day. |
and voter fraud in the state of Wisconsin by the Democratic side.
Also Bush did better in just about every state the second time around .
He won by 3.5 million votes. |
Another logical fallacy: idgit, the US system rests with the Electoral College. It matters not a whit what the overall vote is, only what is it in key locations. THAT is why our system has been so easy to manipulate the last two elections. The scumbags running the campaigns only had to figure out which state was THE key state. Why do you think Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004 had so many more election issues than all the other states? See, that's what you call a SALIENT issue. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Joo, what that article does not mention is the shredding of Democrat voters's registration forms or the fact that Republicans prevented a non-partisan group from helping unregistered voters to properly fill out the forms needed to get a provisional ballot on election day. |
and voter fraud in the state of Wisconsin by the Democratic side.
Also Bush did better in just about every state the second time around .
He won by 3.5 million votes. |
Another logical fallacy: idgit, the US system rests with the Electoral College. It matters not a whit what the overall vote is, only what is it in key locations. THAT is why our system has been so easy to manipulate the last two elections. The scumbags running the campaigns only had to figure out which state was THE key state. Why do you think Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004 had so many more election issues than all the other states? See, that's what you call a SALIENT issue. |
But you don't have the evidence that Kerry got or woud have got more votes in Ohio.
The fact is that Bush was doing better nearly everywhere else why would Ohio be different? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
The MYTH of VOTER FRAUD in Ohio
by James Gatz, Mon May 29, 2006 at 06:15:54 PM EST
If you're one of those progressive blog enthusiasts who is confident in their knowledge that George W. Bush STOLE the 2004 election, |
Not one point in that pile of crap had anything to do with the evidence presented about voter fraud. Good work, joo. Per usual, you answered evidence with partisan ranting. |
the guy was someone who voted for Dean.
Yep you are so left wing you would not fit into the democratic party. |
Riiiiight. That's why I personally oppose abortion, but am pro-choice. You're an idiot. What is the logical connection between who he supported and the logic, or logical fallacies, of his arguments? Rhetorical question. |
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| you answered evidence with partisan ranting |
When in fact it was written by a progressive who supported Dean.
Yet you seem think he is with the Republicans. KInd of looks like you are to the left of the democratic party |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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So what's this about then?
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/06/06/con06219.html
This is a fact: On November 2, 2004, in the State of Ohio, 239,127 votes for President of the United States were dumped, rejected, blocked, lost and left to rot uncounted.
And not just anyone's vote. Dive into the electoral dumpster and these "spoiled" votes have a very dark color indeed.
In another life, I taught statistics. And these statistics stank: the raw data tells us that if you are a Black voter | | |
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