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NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

OK. It's what you'd have done.

What if I were to say that acting extra-judicially is fundamentally anti-constitutional?

I'm not a fan of the guy, but making people disappear severely undermines a US role in promoting "democracy" in the world.

Would that make me anti-US?

Again, sorry for asking two questions.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

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Nowhere Man wrote:
OK. It's what you'd have done.

What if I were to say that acting extra-judicially is fundamentally anti-constitutional?


I agree. It is unconstitutional.

Nowhere Man wrote:
I'm not a fan of the guy, but making people disappear severely undermines a US role in promoting "democracy" in the world.

Would that make me anti-US?


No. Just a realist.


Does it concern you that, in endorsing practices which are unconstitutional, such practices might expand and/or result in another innocent individual disappearing?

If I'm a realist in this case, what are you? I don't mean that as an insult. I'd like to know.

And I'll apologize again for asking 2 questions.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

You were on a slippery slope when you said it was "the right move", were you not?

And I did see your unedited post. Sorry if this makes you uncomfortable, but there is no reason for you to leave this discussion other than your own wanting out.

That was ONE question. Wink
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Court backs government broadband wiretap access
By Peter Kaplan
Fri Jun 9, 5:55 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Friday upheld the government's authority to force high-speed Internet service providers to give law enforcement authorities access for surveillance purposes.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit rejected a petition aimed at overturning a decision by regulators requiring facilities-based broadband providers and those that offer Internet telephone service to comply with U.S. wiretap laws.

In a split decision, two of three judges on the panel concluded that the 2005 Federal Communications Commission requirement was a "reasonable policy choice" even though information services are exempted from the government's wiretapping authority Laughing

The FCC has set a May 14, 2007, deadline for compliance, and the ruling drew praise from the FCC and the Justice Department, which sought the access.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060609/wr_nm/telecoms_wiretaps_court_dc
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Internet Phone Wiretaps Draw Fire
Jay Wrolstad, newsfactor.com
Wed Jun 14, 1:22 PM ET

A court ruling that gives authorities the ability to listen to Internet conversations has drawn fire from a group of technology heavyweights, who are arguing that enabling VoIP wiretaps not only poses risks to Internet security but also represents an invasion of privacy and will thwart innovation.

A report issued Tuesday by the Information Technology Association of America (ITAA) contends that VoIP wiretaps would require either reworking the Internet to enable accurate call intercepts or would introduce dangerous network security risks by adding a layer of technology that would create the ability to eavesdrop on other network services.

Building Wiretaps

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20060614/tc_nf/43894
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AT&T Revises Privacy Policy, Says "Owns" Customer Data

NEW YORK (Reuters) - AT&T Inc. said on Wednesday it was revising its privacy policy, explaining to customers that it owns their phone records and can hand them over to law enforcers if necessary.



The changes take effect on Friday and come at a time when AT&T and other phone companies face lawsuits claiming they aided a U.S. government domestic spying program by giving the National Security Agency call records of millions of customers without their permission.

AT&T said the updated policy was aimed at helping customers understand its practices better and does not change how it treats customer information Evil or Very Mad Confused Rolling Eyes

The new policy, unlike the old one, "spells out" the fact that AT&T owns its customers data. It says that customer information constitutes "business records that are owned by AT&T. As such, AT&T may disclose such records to protect its legitimate business interests, safeguard others, or respond to legal process."

The earlier policy had simply said that, aside from normal business operations such as billing and service provisioning, the company could share customer information to "respond to subpoenas, court orders or other legal process, to the extent required and/or permitted by law," as well as to "to establish or exercise" its legal rights.

Under the new policy, which was being mailed out to AT&T's more than 7 million Internet customers, the company also said that it would track viewing information for customers of a television service it is developing in order to help it make recommendations to customers based on their viewing habits.

It also said that before customers use its services they must agree to the policy, an element that was not in its previous guidelines.

Spokesman Michael Coe said the company, which was formed in November by the merger of AT&T Corp. and SBC Communications Inc., had been working on the new policy for the last six months.

"We are not changing how we treat customer information," said Coe. "We updated our policy to make the language clearer and easier for our customers to understand."

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