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d-rail



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: korea with a c Reply with quote

does anyone know the real reason that korea is somethimes with a c instead of a k? the korean teachers tell me that japan changed it because k comes after j. but that is the roman alphabet. neither japan nor korea origionally use the roman alphabet. to me, the answer sounds too typical...its japan's fault. well, if mexico tried changing the u.s.a. to a different name or spelling it would never fly on the world scene unless the u.s. allowed it. so does anyone know the real reason of Corea?
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they spell it with a c because they can. i don't think there's any real reason why the k became standard and the c didn't.
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canuck in Ansan



Joined: 27 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that it's because it comes from French.

But Korea in French is la Cor�e. So I mean, it's all or none!

Korea + Cor�e = Corea? suuuure.

So yes, I'm also at a loss over this C issue.
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked my husband about it once. He said something about because China was spelt with a "C", Korea had to use a "K". So another country beat them to the punch or something. I don't remember the specifics, just the general reason.

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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maps of the region from before Japanese domination showed Korea commonly spelled as "Corea." When Japan annexed Korea, they apparently wanted to come first alphabetically before the rest of the world. I think the main reason was for international sporting events, which is probably why you see Corea particularly during the World Cup.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The belief that Japan changed it to C is not true. A lot of Koreans have even said that they think it is silly they always mention it as being because of that.

If you look at postage stamps from the late 1800's, they all spell Korea with a 'K'. However, back then they also used French on some of their stamps which uses a 'C'. So, basically it comes down to that people were confused about it because they probably thought everything written in this alphabet it English and then the myth has just been perpetuated to what we see now.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea or Corea?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's a thousand and one threads here at Dave's on that subject

use the "search" command and continue the conversation
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kermo



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
Korea or Corea?


Thanks for that-- it's exactly the sort of thing I've been wanting to see.
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it might have something to do with Japan and China. For example, when learning Japanese we usually use ka, ki, ku, ke and ko (there is also kyo, kyu). Which could well be derived from a language once shared between China, Korea and Japan. I also think using Cs to pronounce Ks is a western thing.

On the other hand, I don't understand Chinese or Korean so I've no idea if they have anything in common.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Germanic languages use a K. The Romance languages use a C. But Koreans consider English to be (in a sense) the only European language, so they either don't know or don't care that there are actually more languages using a C.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Maps of the region from before Japanese domination showed Korea commonly spelled as "Corea." When Japan annexed Korea, they apparently wanted to come first alphabetically before the rest of the world. I think the main reason was for international sporting events, which is probably why you see Corea particularly during the World Cup.


During the time Korea was a part of Japan, it was not independent and it did not field its own national team in the Olympics or other events. In fact, every Korean can probably tell you about the Korean gold medalist runner who had to compete wearing the Japanese flag.

I really never see how this argument in general makes sense. If a nation annexes another nation, the annexed nation no longer exists, so it doesn't matter if it comes first in another language's spelling system or not. It also fails when you consider that it does not hold water when considering the spelling systems of Russian, German, and many other languages.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, what most people either don't know or disregard, Japan doesn't want their name to be "Japan" in English...they want it to be "Nippon". All Nippon Airways? So either way, Korea would come first if it were with a K or a C.

But honestly, who cares?

KPRROK
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hater Depot wrote:
The Germanic languages use a K. The Romance languages use a C. But Koreans consider English to be (in a sense) the only European language, so they either don't know or don't care that there are actually more languages using a C.


Thanks for that, yeah the Italians uses a C.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you guys follow the link I posted and read what can be found there(and review the source materials), you would learn that the issue doesn't really require this much discussion.

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