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krissy123



Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Location: Suwon, S.Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Need help on what to do!! Please Reply with quote

Hi, I just arrived in S.Korea, and started my new job yesterday. I was told before coming here that there would be four other foreign teachers at my school, but I found out that there are not. I am the only one. This is upsetting for me, as I am not the best at meeting people, and wanted to be able to have co-workers that were English. The class sizes are also bigger than they told me.
I would like to know if there is any way I can get out of this. Yes, I signed a contract, but I was lied to, so does that not count for something? As well, I do not have my visa yet, I am supposed to be going to Japan this week to get it, so if I don't have my visa yet, am I tied down to them? It's possible that the visa process has begun, but I do not have it yet.
Can they really get me in trouble if I back out since they got me to start work before getting a visa? Wouldn't that get them in trouble also? I would pay them back the plane ticket fare too, because I don't want to cheat them.
Any help or advice would be appreciated, I am quite upset about this. Thanks!
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry that you are going through this. If you plan on going back to your home country, then pack up and leave. No one can stop you. However, if you want to work somewhere else in Korea, you will have to get your letter of release. Good luck and best wishes.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible that your first problem is that you are working before you have a work visa. This is potentially a big problem, not for them, but for you. If Immi found out and wanted to be nasty, you could be in trouble.

It isn't clear from your post who 'they' are. Is 'they' a recruiting agency, a hakwon, a public school?

If you're going to stand up to them, now is the time, before you get your work visa.
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: LOR Reply with quote

Would she need a letter of release if she doesn't have her visa yet?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: LOR Reply with quote

jlb wrote:
Would she need a letter of release if she doesn't have her visa yet?


She does NOT have a visa yet. She does NOT need a letter of release.
She was lied to. The contract is NOT enforceable.

Tell them that you are NOT going to stay.
Repay the ticket and find another job.

If you stay and work without your visa you will be breaking the law.

Just repay the ticket and leave without further ado. Be prepared to move to a hotel or yeogwan the moment that you quit. It will probably be better if you are moved to a hotel BEFORE you tell them that you quit. They will probably be pissy about it. If you are moved out then they can't hold your luggage hostage.
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will also want to go to your local immigration office to make sure that they haven't started your visa process. If they have, ask immigration very nicely to cancel it (they don't like doing this but they will do it so be nice to them). If you don't have your visa process cancelled, once your visa issuance number is issued you'll have a lot harder time getting that cancelled.

Also, tell immigration what happened (BUT DON"T TELL THEM ABOUT WORKING WITHOUT A VISA, THAT WILL GET YOU IN TROUBLE) so your employer can't make up bullsh*t stories about you to cause you trouble.
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TML1976



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do not have a visa therefore they cannot enforce shit and you don't need a letter of release. They can't black list a person that does not have a visa. They wouldn't do it anyways as it would be bad for them. BigBuds also has a good point, go to the immi office and cancel the process, tell them that you just changed your mind for the time being. and that you will try back in a couple of months, or better yet say there was a family emergency and that you need to go back home asap to be with your family. whatever it takes to cancel it.

If you are a good, honest person that believes in good/bad karma then pay back the airfare and then go, however, I'm not so I suggest you run. They lied to you and this is just the beginning.

Go back home and come back in a couple of months. If you want a good job pm me and I will hook you up with one. Its a bit outside of seoul (74 kilometers in Anseong-si) but its close enough that you can go there every weekend if you wanted and there are about 6 or 7 other natives that work here too (at different schools, not yours but we meet often).

the job I can get you is at a public school and its much better than the hagwon bullshit people have to put up with.

Good luck
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Krissy!

There is an immigration office right here in Suweon.

Also, there are lots of foreign teachers in Suweon, and foreign teachers in most Korean cities are a closely-knit group.

Also, there are lots of English schools right here in Suweon. You might be able to get another job right here in Suweon in time for your visa run.

Try running a resume saying that you are already in Suweon and you are looking for a job in Suweon.
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krissy123



Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Location: Suwon, S.Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks guys for the replies! They were helpful! I was just wondering one more thing...if I go to the immigration office and ask to cancel the application, will I get in trouble for coming to Korean as a tourist even though I was coming for work? Also, I talked to my recruiter and I asked if it was possible for the application to be cancelled because she said it would be ready in a day or two (thus, not ready yet) but she said no, that wasn't possible...is she lying to me?
Also, does anyone know where in Suwon the immigration office is?
Thank you!
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Vollrath



Joined: 29 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES!!!! They're all lying to you.

1) The recruiter will do or say ANYTHING to keep you at that school thus ensuring his or her blood money.

2) The school will do or say anything to keep you because it takes time and money to find another teacher.

This should serve as an object lesson to both the recruiter and the school about how NOT to go about their bizz, but of course, the lesson will be lost on all involved because they have no souls.

The important thing is to get yourself OUT of that situation ASAP. Stop the visa process yourself, get in a taxi and get the translation service working for you to find the office you need to go to. Luckily you're in a satellite of Seoul, so you won't have any problems. Just do it now, because if it's already this bad from the get go, who knows how bad it will be 6 months later?
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.immigration.go.kr/indeximmeng.html

Suwon Immigration Office: Suwon, Gunpo, Euiwang, Osan, Icheon, Yongin, Anseong, Gwangju, Hwaseong, Yangpyung, Yeoju: #919-6, kuun-dong, Gwonseon-gu, Suwon: T. 031-278-3311 F. 031-278-3326

Suwon Immigration Office: Osan Branch Office Osan Air Base San # 5 Shinjang-dong Pyongtaek-si Gyonggi-do, Inside Osan Air Base(K-55): T. 031-666-2677 F. 031-666-7387

Suwon Immigration Office: Pyoungtaek Branch Office Pyoungtaek Manho-ri570 Poseung-myoun, Pyoung taek-si, Kyoung gi-do 570: T. 031-683-6937 F. 031-6832-1794

I'm assuming that the first office is the one you're looking for unless you're living in Pyoung-taek City.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the Korean(might be easier to show a taxi driver):

수원 출입국관리사무소

경기도: 군포시, 의왕시, 수원시, 용인시, 오산시, 이천시, 안성시, 화성시(평택항 제외), 광주시, 양평군, 여주군