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What should be done with the United Nations?
Leave it as is ( if it ain't broke don't fix it )
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
It's in dire need of sweeping reform
61%
 61%  [ 8 ]
It should be strengthened to serve as the Jewel in the Crown of 21st Century Global Government
15%
 15%  [ 2 ]
Abolish it
23%
 23%  [ 3 ]
I dunno
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
I don't care
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 13

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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: United Nations Discussion Thread Reply with quote

UN Unveils $7 Trillion Plan
(and solution to the world's problems at a stroke)
By Philip Thornton, Economics Correspondent
Published: 30 January 2006



The most potent threats to life on earth - global warming, health pandemics, poverty and armed conflict - could be ended by moves that would unlock $7 trillion - $7,000,000,000,000 - of previously untapped wealth, the United Nations claims today.

The price? An admission that the nation-state is an old-fashioned concept that has no role to play in a modern globalised world where financial markets have to be harnessed rather than simply condemned Twisted Evil

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article341967.ece

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0118-06.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=UN+unveils+plan+


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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I know you are going to bring this up at some point in this thread so we might as well get it out now:

Black helicopters.

What are you hoping to tell us about them?
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Gorgias



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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chotaerang



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

number 3 if it were a one person, one vote democratically elected world government.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's after coming across stories like this that i wish i would have voted "ABOLISH" & denounce

Security forces from the US and Nairobi ??? Evil or Very Mad

UN Youth Delegates Dragged From Convention Centre
Thu Jun 22, 09:53 PM EST

Three youth delegates to the World Urban Forum complain they were dragged out of the Vancouver Trade and Convention Centre on Wednesday night by security officers.

A weeping Nathalie Lozano, 19, told CBC News the incident began when the three women lined up at a security checkpoint in the building,
on their way to the washroom.

Lozano says officials searched their bags and confiscated T-shirts with a political slogan on them.

"We had the shirts that say, 'Don't be a war toy.' We had them in our bags, we didn't have them on. When they saw us in the backpacks with them, they took it from us and they say we couldn't get them."

But she says she decided to back one of her friends who refused to leave without the T-shirts.

"I was a little bit hesitant, I didn't know what to do, 'cause I got a little bit scared, but she said she wasn't going to move at all, and so I decided to stay with them."

Lozano says she was then dragged out of the convention centre by her hair. "They started pulling us, they pulled my hair, they pulled a lot of hair off me."

Micheal Vonn of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association says free speech is compromised when a T-shirt is considered a security threat.

"You do have to ask yourself what country is this when T-shirts are being confiscated. I think that's deeply shocking. It's obviously because of what was written on the T-shirts that was the problem. But why it would be a security problem, it's deeply troubling, obviously.

"And then the allegation of the excessive force, again deeply troubling. You know, whenever we have a scenario like this, we want to know that there's accountability," she told CBC Radio.

The conference is being run by the UN, which means the convention centre in downtown Vancouver is not part of Canada during the session and comes under UN control, says spokesman Sharad Shankardass.

He said it is being policed by security forces from New York and Nairobi. Shocked Confused

Shankardass says the T-shirts are considered "objectionable material" by the UN because they directly attack a UN member state.
However, he didn't clarify which one.

Nevertheless, he says the UN is taking the incident seriously and will prepare a report.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/cbc/s/22062006/3/vancouver-youth-delegates-dragged-convention-centre.html
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daskalos



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make a democratically elected government the criterion for membership, so that the legitimate governments of the world are not hamstrung/held hostage to the maniacal dictatorships of the world. A system in which the vote of petty tyrant is weighted the same a freely elected government is worse than ridiculous -- it's destructive.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
'Don't be a war toy.'


Ole Natalie should be glad the cops confiscated her t-shirts and rescued her from such a fashion faux pas.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It's after coming across stories like this that i wish i would have voted "ABOLISH" & denounce

Security forces from the US and Nairobi ???

UN Youth Delegates Dragged From Convention Centre


Umm, can you tell us why the UN shouldn't use security forces from the US and Kenya?
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Quote:
It's after coming across stories like this that i wish i would have voted "ABOLISH" & denounce

Security forces from the US and Nairobi ???

UN Youth Delegates Dragged From Convention Centre


Umm, can you tell us why the UN shouldn't use security forces from the US and Kenya?


In downtown Vancouver? wtf? Any true Canadian ought to be outraged.

Then there's the whole issue of politically "incorrect" t-shirts constituting terror.

It's becoming increasingly clear the UN serves primarily as an instrument of global fascism, ZERO accountability.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
On the other hand wrote:
Quote:
It's after coming across stories like this that i wish i would have voted "ABOLISH" & denounce

Security forces from the US and Nairobi ???

UN Youth Delegates Dragged From Convention Centre


Umm, can you tell us why the UN shouldn't use security forces from the US and Kenya?


In downtown Vancouver?


So, what did you think about the scene in Fahrenheit 9-11, where American agents were patrolling in front of the Saudi embassy? Michael Moore seemed to think that was all rather sinister.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
So, what did you think about the scene in Fahrenheit 9-11, where American agents were patrolling in front of the Saudi embassy? Michael Moore seemed to think that was all rather sinister.


Frankly i don't see how the two scenarios are even comparable. Did CSIS or a couple of mountie thugs forcibly remove the delegates? NO. If they had, you can bet there'd have been a much greater chance of accountability.

The presence of ANY armed foreign security or trans-national militia constitutes a major breach of national sovereignty.

None of this ought to be surprising mind you, other than the fact that Canadian "authorities" are too cowardly to take a clear stand.

*AHEM* Paging our "heroic" Prime Minister Harper Confused

All part of course of the increasingly creepy UN / NWO agenda.

"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."

Henry Kissinger
(1923- ) Former US Secretary of State
Source: Speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. Bilderburgers meeting. Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the meeting.



This is all i have to say on this matter.


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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On the other hand wrote:
So, what did you think about the scene in Fahrenheit 9-11, where American agents were patrolling in front of the Saudi embassy? Michael Moore seemed to think that was all rather sinister.


Frankly i don't see how the two scenarios are even comparable. Did CSIS or a couple of mountie thugs forcibly remove the delegates? NO. If they had, you can bet there'd have been a much greater chance of accountability.


My point was that the professional paranoia crowd got worked up because the American government was protecting a foreign embassy. American cops kow-towing to the Saudis!!

But I suspect that these people would have been equally upset if the Saudis themselves had been guarding the embassy. Saudi agents patrolling American streets!!

What I'm wondering is how you would have reacted if the UN Conference had been guarded by Vancouver police or the RCMP.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."

Henry Kissinger
(1923- ) Former US Secretary of State
Source: Speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. Bilderburgers meeting. Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the meeting.


Was Kissinger stroking a cat in a darkened room when he made this speech? Smile
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
But I suspect that these people would have been equally upset if the Saudis themselves had been guarding the embassy. Saudi agents patrolling American streets!!


Shocked Huh? Where are embassy security anywhere allowed to patrol beyond their clearly designated compound perimeters?

On the other hand wrote:
What I'm wondering is how you would have reacted if the UN Conference had been guarded by Vancouver police or the RCMP.


Read my last post.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Was Kissinger stroking a cat in a darkened room when he made this speech? Smile


Likely stroking "something" in a dark room alrighty ... Shocked
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