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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urban Myth wrote:

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Actually shariah law IS practised in Canada (at least in Ontario) though I doubt the harsher penalties are meted out.


From the BBC:

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The head of Canada's Ontario province has rejected attempts to allow Muslims to use Sharia law in family disputes.
A report by Ontario's former attorney general Marion Boyd had recommended the use of Islamic law to settle issues such as divorce and child custody.

But Premier Dalton McGuinty ruled against the move, saying there should be "one law for all Ontarians".

Protests were held against the Sharia law proposal in major Canadian cities, as well as in Paris, London and Vienna.

Critics said allowing Islamic tribunals could lead to discrimination against women.



Are you aware of Sharia being applied in other areas of the Ontario legal system?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4236762.stm


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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should be pointed out that the plan to allow Sharia marital arbitration tribunals in Ontario wasn't really a case of Muslims sauntering off the boat and demanding that the infidels put the woman back in their place. Catholics and Jews had already been granted similar arbitration rights in the 1990s. So all the Muslims were demanding was the same thing that had already been given to other religious groups. The government eventually scrapped the entire religious arbitration system.
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Roch



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Urban Myth wrote:

Quote:
Actually shariah law IS practised in Canada (at least in Ontario) though I doubt the harsher penalties are meted out.


From the BBC:

Quote:
The head of Canada's Ontario province has rejected attempts to allow Muslims to use Sharia law in family disputes.
A report by Ontario's former attorney general Marion Boyd had recommended the use of Islamic law to settle issues such as divorce and child custody.

But Premier Dalton McGuinty ruled against the move, saying there should be "one law for all Ontarians".

Is Marion Boyd from Charlottetown, P.E.I.?

Protests were held against the Sharia law proposal in major Canadian cities, as well as in Paris, London and Vienna.

Critics said allowing Islamic tribunals could lead to discrimination against women.



Are you aware of Sharia being applied in other areas of the Ontario legal system?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4236762.stm
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, Roch my man. I think you forget to include a comment with your quote there. Looking forward to it, though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Urban Myth wrote:

Quote:
Actually shariah law IS practised in Canada (at least in Ontario) though I doubt the harsher penalties are meted out.


From the BBC:

Quote:
The head of Canada's Ontario province has rejected attempts to allow Muslims to use Sharia law in family disputes.
A report by Ontario's former attorney general Marion Boyd had recommended the use of Islamic law to settle issues such as divorce and child custody.

But Premier Dalton McGuinty ruled against the move, saying there should be "one law for all Ontarians".

Protests were held against the Sharia law proposal in major Canadian cities, as well as in Paris, London and Vienna.

Critics said allowing Islamic tribunals could lead to discrimination against women.



Are you aware of Sharia being applied in other areas of the Ontario legal system?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4236762.stm


My bad, that should be Sharia WAS practiced in Canada since 1991. Simply type in Sharia law in Canada into Google and you will find numberous articles on that.
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Roch



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Eh, Roch my man. I think you forget to include a comment with your quote there. Looking forward to it, though.


You're very quick off the tee.

I'm wondering if Marion Boyd is from Prince Edward Island, Canada.

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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roch:

According to Wiki, Boyd was born in Ontario, graduated from university there, and worked at York University and a London Ont. woman's shelter before entering the NDP government of Bob Rae. It does not mention her having any connection with PEI.

What made you think she might be from PEI?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Boyd
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Roch:

According to Wiki, Boyd was born in Ontario, graduated from university there, and worked at York University and a London Ont. woman's shelter before entering the NDP government of Bob Rae. It does not mention her having any connection with PEI.

What made you think she might be from PEI?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Boyd


Hi,

There was a well-known and well-educated woman named Marion Boyd in Charlottetown in the early '90s.

Thanks for the tip.

R
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

17 windows smashed for 17 terrorists.

For the record, I think they really are guilty, and it's unfortunate that they are Canadian born, because we can't justifiably send them anywhere. Maybe to the moon. There they can't spread their hatred around.


BJWD wrote:
Muslim isn't a race.

And it makes sense, today, to look disproportionately at Muslims when preventing (or trying to prevent) terrorism.

The acts of vandalism against that Mosque in Toronto (17 windows smashed) are deplorable and those who did it I hope will be brought in front of a court. But, if we are going to have a serious debate about modern terrorism, it is necessary to ask "why Islam?" (regardless of what conclusion that will bring us to in the future).

All Canadians, including the press, should be asking serious questions about Islam and the nature of Jihad, should we wish to understand what almost took place.

Islam, the religion, is most certainly under scrutiny, and I don't think that that is in and of itself a bad thing. Provided, of course, that Canadians continue not to pass judgement on a whole group based upon the actions of a few.
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