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anjucat
Joined: 26 Jul 2005
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 Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:06 am Post subject: photos of the north |
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Howdy. I found these whilst perusing a freakin' hockey forum. A WHOLE BUNCH of neato shots from North Korea.
I'm a technical moron, and have no idea how to easily post a link, but i'll try to copy it by hand and then type it in correctly here. Definitely worth the look-see, if you're into that sort of thing:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82755
That should work. Enjoy. |
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mole
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Enlightening. Good photos and captions. |
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ucfvgirl
Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Location: Bundang
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: Wow |
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| You know, as much as we foreigners complain about South Korea, myself included, we should consider ourselves lucky we don't have to deal with the likes of North Korea. Our lives could be a lot worse. Great photos. Thanks for sharing. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| North Koreans are always amazed when they see a white man. |
So are South Koreans.  |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Great pics. Thanks for the link. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: Wow |
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It doesn't sound like the photographer had ever been to South Korea.
Personally I was shocked because the photos didn't look quite as bad as I'd always imagined. The people in Pyongyang looked a lot better off than I'd imagined, and even the people in the countryside the photographer managed to get didn't look much worse than some of the old-generation South Koreans I've seen.
Plus I was startled by one brief comment about urban development in Pyongyang. Some old people didn't want to move out of their homes, so the government left them alone and built around them. In Seoul, the government hires gangsters to chase those people away so the neighbourhoods can be bulldozed.
(Note I'm not saying things are good there, just that they're a lot better than I'd imagined the places you're not allowed to photograph would look like.) |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Terrific photos. I was intrigued by the garbage cans. If communism can't eradicate cheesiness, what good is it? |
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pastis
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| Some old people didn't want to move out of their homes, so the government left them alone and built around them |
I understood that this was just the official gov't line the photographer was given, just an false excuse as to why those people were living in such derelict shacks in the first place (ie. and not "fancy condos" like in the west), plus that was a 'forbidden' picture anyway - shouldn't have been taken as he said. In other words, the response about the old people staying put was propaganda from the tour guide to save NK face. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| pastis wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Some old people didn't want to move out of their homes, so the government left them alone and built around them |
I understood that this was just the official gov't line the photographer was given, just an false excuse as to why those people were living in such derelict shacks in the first place (ie. and not "fancy condos" like in the west), plus that was a 'forbidden' picture anyway - shouldn't have been taken as he said. In other words, the response about the old people staying put was propaganda from the tour guide to save NK face. |
Maybe, but that supposes they know something about how urban renewal is carried out in South Korea. |
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plattwaz
Joined: 08 Apr 2005
Location: <Write something dumb here>
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Personally, I like this one the best:
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| Kiosk for locals, most of the time they sell lemonade, forigers are given a plastic cup, locals get porcelain mugs, that are washed in a bucket of water after use. |
And in the photo you can see stacks and stacks of paper cups....are they expecting a party in the near future????? |
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Zolt
Joined: 18 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:38 am Post subject: |
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I remember about 2 years ago in a discussion about NK there was a link to a fantastic story by a group of expats in SK (canadian or aussies I think) who did the trip to the north to see the "arirang festival"... can't seem to find the thread now.
The pictures were not so many nor so good, but the back story was fantastic. The guys freaked the hell out of their "guides" because they spoke fluent korean and started talking up to random people.
They also did the DMZ tour from the north!
Photos here are really good... of course he does not get the really ugly part: the re-education camps, slums, black markets. famine is largely over now thx to south aid, but food is still scarce. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the post . VERY interesting and I enjoyed the author's wit. Especially the one about the mystery as to why the South had better roads!!!!
DD |
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Jarome_Turner
Joined: 10 Sep 2004
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| I think the Marmot posted most of those a few months back. A fewnew ones in the bunch - tempting to go - must.. resist.. urge. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Wow |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Personally I was shocked because the photos didn't look quite as bad as I'd always imagined. |
Bear in mind, he saw only what he was allowed to.
The malnutrition in the countryside amongst those not affiliated to the party is quite severe.
Remember, North koreans are divided into reliables, questionables, and prisoners.
seen plenty horrific pictures from outside the cities:) |
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