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gdimension
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Jeju
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 Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| bignate wrote: |
| gdimension wrote: |
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One thing that I though of was why is there a level of justification placed upon a soldier or an insurgent killing each other? Each sees his duty as being ethically and specifically moral in nature....yet neither cares that their resources and lives are being used by those higher in the : "heirarchy"........ |
How do you know what they think or feel? |
So true, please enlighten us... |
If I knew, I'd tell you. That's kind of my point.
I'm willing to bet that there are some that care and some that don't care "that their resources and lives are being used by those higher in the : "heirarchy"."
I just think that it is folly to ascribe such personal thoughts and convictions, which are sometimes hard to guess of the people closest in our lives, to a rather large, disparate group. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: |
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I guess I don't agree with your points or your conclusion.
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| What he offers is dialogue. |
No, dialogue is what happens when I sit on a bar stool and shoot the s*** about lousy weather and a crappy job. Reading the same old complaints decade after decade is called 'self abuse', or at best, a circle jerk. It may feel good but doesn't produce any children. I expect more from a published author than I do from schmucks like us sitting at home in front of our computers.
It's quite possible the man discusses viable alternatives in his book, or promises to in the future. I have no idea. As I said, I've never read him or heard of him.
Let's just say I get a strong sense of deja moo when someone starts chatting about killing massive numbers of people in order to create a better world. [/code] |
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TheFonz
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: North Georgia
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Sounds an interesting read with some worthwhile insights into the moral nature of our lives. Kind of like Das Kapital with Enviromentalism.
I wonder what he's proposing we do after we take apart the basis of civilisation? |
Right, I am thinking without some sort of integral form of universial conscience, won't man slip into anarchy????
Haven't gotten that far, and I don't think the author has either, since the second book is entitled Resistence..... |
I have been going over this in my head as well. I wouldn't see anyone drastically challenging the status quo at the present state of things. Civilization wouldn't be eradicated on a whim. Great pressure would have to be applied for it to crash. People would have to be motivated by fear, panic, suffering, and hate. What would take away civilization as we know it? Would it take a disaster of catastrophic proportions? I don't foresee just one disaster, but a series of disasters piled on top of one another. A domino effect almost. The way our system exists today, how many have what it takes to survive? This would shake the population. Panic and fear would ensue. Chaos would be rampant until the panic is seized by someone/something with the means and will to dominate. Might even be the person/entity that created the chaos in the first place. Then a police state would ensue. The masses would be herded, some would be slaughtered, and some would be left alive. Then you unite the people under a banner of hate and nationalism. 1984  |
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