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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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 Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: People will be having sex with robots within 5 years |
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No sex please, robot, just clean the floor
Ed Habershon and Richard Woods
THE race is on to keep humans one step ahead of robots: an international team of scientists and academics is to publish a �code of ethics� for machines as they become more and more sophisticated.
Although the nightmare vision of a Terminator world controlled by machines may seem fanciful, scientists believe the boundaries for human-robot interaction must be set now � before super-intelligent robots develop beyond our control.
�There are two levels of priority,� said Gianmarco Verruggio, a roboticist at the Institute of Intelligent Systems for Automation in Genoa, northern Italy, and chief architect of the guide, to be published next month. �We have to manage the ethics of the scientists making the robots and the artificial ethics inside the robots.�
Verruggio and his colleagues have identified key areas that include: ensuring human control of robots; preventing illegal use; protecting data acquired by robots; and establishing clear identification and traceability of the machines.
�Scientists must start analysing these kinds of questions and seeing if laws or regulations are needed to protect the citizen,� said Verruggio. �Robots will develop strong intelligence, and in some ways it will be better than human intelligence.
�But it will be alien intelligence; I would prefer to give priority to humans.�
The analysis culminated at a meeting recently held in Genoa by the European Robotics Research Network (Euron) that examined the problems likely to arise as robots become smarter, faster, stronger and ubiquitous.
�Security, safety and sex are the big concerns,� said Henrik Christensen, a member of the Euron ethics group. How far should robots be allowed to influence people�s lives? How can accidents be avoided? Can deliberate harm be prevented? And what happens if robots turn out to be sexy? �The question is what authority are we going to delegate to these machines?� said Professor Ronald Arkin, a roboticist at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta. �Are we, for example, going to give robots the ability to execute lethal force, or any force, like crowd control?� The forthcoming code is a sign of reality finally catching up with science fiction. Ethical problems involving machines were predicted in the 1950s by the science fiction writer Isaac Asimov whose book I, Robot was recently turned into a Hollywood film. The Terminator and Robocop series of films also portrayed mechanical law enforcers running amok.
Present robots perform more mundane tasks: the most common consumer robots in Britain include self-guided vacuum cleaners such as the Scooba, lawnmowers such as the Robomow and children�s toys such as Robosapien.
But far more sophisticated machines are being developed. The National Health Service has used a robot called da Vinci to perform surgery at Guy�s and St Thomas� NHS Foundation Trust in London. In Japan, human-like robots such as Honda�s Asimo and Sony�s Qrio can walk on two legs. More advanced versions are expected to be undertaking everyday domestic tasks and helping to care for the elderly in as little as 20 years.
�I would hope they would always be subordinate,� said Brian Aldiss, the science fiction writer. �But one will no doubt come to rely on them deeply.� Aldiss�s short story Supertoys Last All Summer Long was the basis for the Steven Spielberg film AI, which addressed the subject of whether androids that have become as intelligent as humans should be denied equal rights.
Other dilemmas may arrive sooner than we think, says Christensen. �People are going to be having sex with robots within five years,� he said. So should limits be set on the appearance, for example, of such robotic sex toys? The greatest danger, however, is likely to lie with robots that are able to learn from their �experiences�. As systems develop, robots are likely to have much more sophisticated self-learning mechanisms built into them and it may become impossible to predict exactly how they will behave.
�My guess is that we�ll have conscious machines before 2020,� said Ian Pearson, futurologist-in-residence at BT. �If we put that in a robot, it�s an android. That is an enormous ethical change.�
To critics who scoff that intelligent robots are a long way off, the roboticists easily riposte that machines can already exert surprising influence over our lives � think about the influence of the internet.
Keeping control
New robo-ethics recommendations
# Safety Ensure human control of robot
# Security Prevent wrong or illegal use
# Privacy Protect data held by robot o Traceability Record robot�s activity
# Identifiability Give unique ID to each robot
Isaac Asimov�s laws of robotics
# Robot may not injure human or, through inaction, allow human to come to harm
# Robot must obey human orders, unless they conflict with first law
# Robot must protect itself if this does not conflict with other laws |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2230715,00.html?feed=rss |
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pocketfluff
Joined: 30 May 2006
Location: Washington, DC (school) and Los Angeles, CA (home)
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Early bird gets the worm?
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| �People are going to be having sex with robots within five years,� he said. So should limits be set on the appearance, for example, of such robotic sex toys? |
There definetly has to be limits on appearances ie: no robots that look like children. But you just know somebody somewhere will probably try to make them.
How long would it take for a twisted-individual-in-progress to want "the real thing" after a while?
Some would say it'll keep the already-twisted individuals from re-offending with kids. I don't believe that.
Scary stuff. |
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TheFonz
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: North Georgia
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: People will be having sex with robots within 5 years |
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No sex please, robot, just clean the floor
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I laughed at this alone. Great article. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| �People are going to be having sex with robots within five years,� he said. So should limits be set on the appearance, for example, of such robotic sex toys? |
There definetly has to be limits on appearances ie: no robots that look like children. But you just know somebody somewhere will probably try to make them.
How long would it take for a twisted-individual-in-progress to want "the real thing" after a while?
Some would say it'll keep the already-twisted individuals from re-offending with kids. I don't believe that.
Scary stuff. |
Ya, it's sort of like thrill seekers, things become less dangerous or they get use to the thrill, they need to find a new one.
DISCLAIMER, I am not comparing thrill seekers to child molesters, but the thrill (or whatever turns on those sick bastar!s)!!! |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea
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�People are going to be having sex with robots within five years,� he said.
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... WAY ahead of you ...
I guess I must be an early adopter ... |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| It's important that people meet and discuss these issues as its going to get very sticky , lol, but remeber when we just started talking about cloning and such. That debate rages and is likely never to end. As for this idea of robots that look like children it will be very difficult to deal with because we can't arrest people for whats in their head, only what they do and I don't want the government trying to start that. It would seem more sensible to just hand out life sentences for anyone convicetd of rape, molestation, or creating kiddy porn. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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THE race is on to keep humans one step ahead of robots: an international team of scientists and academics is to publish a �code of ethics� for machines as they become more and more sophisticated.
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sure they can break and rnB dance but when they start to be able to square dance, THEN I will get worried.
It's an achievement but I wouldn't say walking up the stairs is necessarily sophisticated.
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| �Are we, for example, going to give robots the ability to execute lethal force, or any force, like crowd control?� The forthcoming code is a sign of reality finally catching up with science fiction. |
Sounds like the ol' phrase "The man's got me down" is going to have to go over a slight overhaul |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam
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I read a book once called Factoring Humanity by Robert J. Sawyer and in it, the main charachter is trying to develop A.I. It's a side story to the main one, and I won't go in to it, but he's already got a computer program that's amazingly close to being A.I., but isn't. What's interesting is that at some point in the book, the program bascially kills itself. It determines that if it ever actually becomes self-aware, that it will attempt to destroy humanity. The reason being that intelligent life always seeks to destroy any other intelligent life that it's in competition with. So you have a whole Terminator/Matrix thing going on there.
And also, it touches on quantum computers. If you don't know what those are, it's a theoretical computer that shares computing power over an infinite number of dimensions. One calculation done per one dimension all instantly. If we can figure out how to do that, it could very well give rise to true A.I. Not to mention that all of our security encryptions would become worthless overnight since it could crack them almost instantly. There are already people working on how to solve this problem for when someone does finally figure out how to make quantum computers work. It's not that far off.
And, more on topic, if someone wants to bang a robot, why the hell not. There's already plenty of battery operated sex toys out there.
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| The worst thing is gonna be when your sex robot is on the rag, and you're facing either a night alone or a black, oily mess in the bed. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| The sad thing about this is the number of people who won't be able to tell any difference. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| People will be having sex with robots within 5 years |
Its already happened!! Didn't you see CHERRY 2000? That film creased me! Especially when she short circuits on the kitchen floor.
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| After years of misuse his Cherry 2000 sexaroid experiences a serious meltdown during some adult play on the sudsy kitchen floor (the dishwasher is overflowing at the time). It seems that an o-ring gave way somewhere and copious amounts of water leaked into her internal system, thereby resulting in a short circuit. All the "Number 69 alive" jokes aside, the fact that she shorted is frightening. I would have serious reservations about inserting a part of my body into anything running enough current to power a major appliance. |
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animalbirdfish
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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What I'm hoping is that, unlike picking up real women, there'll be more of a system to hooking up with robots.
I wonder if they'll act all put out if you don't call them the next day. |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam
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Didn't any of you see A.I.? Sure, a bit long, I'll admit, but it did touch on the possibility of android prostitutes. If I live long enough to see it at that level, yeah, I'd probably try it. Just a fancier way to wack it, really.
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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A great robot once said "You've got metal fever, boy."
Who was that robot? |
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