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[Tiger Beer]

I saw George Bush attended the funeral - and it made me wonder.. 'why?'

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[igotthisguitar]

[Gopher]

[4 months left]

[Gopher]

Are you just speculating and feeding on a cynical worldview or do you know something concrete?

Because if you know something or have some direct evidence to cite, you have not shared it with us yet.

[4 months left]

[Gopher]

No, I don't believe I need to pm you; keep your North Korean land.

Igotthisguitar alleged that Ken Lay was assassinated -- by innuendo, as is usual with him or her -- or whatever this poster is.

I asked for evidence. Or at least that s/he should explain why s/he thinks Lay was assassinated.

Then you ridicule my position by alleging that you think I think that Ken Lay was innocent, when we were not discussing guilt or innocence at all, but an absurd and unsubstantiated assassination allegation.

You also use not one but two question marks, I imagine to show that you are outraged that I do not accept at face value your and Igotthisguitar's wild allegation that Ken Lay was assassinated or, as you assert, that he committed suicide.

Then you ramble about an issue already settled -- that is, whether he knew what was going on. I think, at the very least, he has been judged guilty or responsible for this. I do not know who you are arguing against on this point. Certainly not me. Because I never claimed he was innocent.

So, in any case, it is clear that you cannot deal with allegations and evidence and you also cannot focus on a single issue.

"Was the Skull and Bones and the New World Order conspiracy that Igotthisguitar continually tells us about involved in Ken Lay's 'death'"?

I am just asking how you know the man was assassinated or how you know he committed suicide (or the other poster that alleged Lay faked his own death). I am not asking for the usual antiEstablishment diatribe, least of all not from an angry mob of posters who are celebrating someone's death and saying everything but "burn him!"...

As for me, unless I see compelling evidence otherwise, I think Lay probably died from a heart attack, which may have been helped along by prior medical history, a possible guilty conscience, and a great deal of stress experienced over the last couple of years.

[4 months left]

Whoa, chill. It is possible that he died of a heart attack but it seems pretty fishy. He cost people Billions dollars, yes Billions with a B. He is a sleazy, greasy rat that will make many innocent people suffer because they lost a lot of money because he was money grubbing slimeball and personifies what is wrong with the free market system. No I don't have proof he was assisinatied or committed suicide. Do you have proof how Kennedy was shot or if Elvis is still alive??? (triple question marks

Reeelax.

[Gopher]

No. This is not about JFK or Elvis.

It is about Ken Lay's death.

It is not about Ken Lay's guilt in the Enron scandal or what you think of his character. It is about his death -- how he died.

I presented evidence, as reported by several credible news sources, that show that people saw him dead, that he was in fact pronounced dead, that authorities cite a prior history of heart disease, that a preliminary autopsy concluded that he died of a heart attack, and the man who conducted it specifically told us that he saw no evidence of "foul play."

Apparently that is not good enough for you and Igotthisguitar. So, then, what have you got (besides a cynical and bitter antiEstablishment worldview)?

And, by the way, here is another discussion on Lay's death and the link between stress and heart attacks...

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[Gopher]

[ontheway]

Ken Lay is dead. He was not murdered. Although it is possible this was a suicide with some doctor assisting him and helping to cover it up, there is no evidence to conclude that that is what happened. All evidence suggests that this was a stress induced heart attack bringing about the premature death of an already old man. Look at his pictures and you can see that he would have not lived to be very old in any case.


There are enough real conspiracies in the world. There is no need to fabricate any extra ones.

[ddeubel]

I know for a fact that God killed him.............

That is if there is a god. If anyone took the Lord's name in vain, it wasn't me but Ken Lay.

I just hated all those people saying how "generous" he was.........of course he was generous, merely from the gross amounts of cash he illegally gained but mostly from the guilt of what he had done. His giving was anything but philanthropic.

And then he backed it all up with admonishings and pious displays of God worship.......

If there was / is a god, I know for a fact she killed him.

DD

[endo]