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Snowmeow
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Personal experience:
While living in Taiwan, I studied Chinese with an Austrian who'd lived in Japan for about 5 years.
Apparently, an idiom for a crappy camera there is tocall it a Korean camera.
Gut instinct: They view Koreans the way that Americans view Mexicans.
Personal experince: A Japanese college friend came here for a wedding. The night she arrived, I suggested that Korea and Japan have more similarities than differences. She immediately questioned that. But, by the end of her time here, she'd noticed a lot of linguistic similarities and her major focus was the shopping opportunities. (and I don't mean that in a negative fashion, just that things were cheaper).
Honestly, I find them equal in an obstinate refusal to reconcile their histories. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Nowhere Man wrote: |
| Gut instinct: They view Koreans the way that Americans view Mexicans. |
as hard-working immigrants who have an immense presense that will definetely be changing the national language and ethnic makeup of the U.S. in the immediate future? |
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Bo Peabody
Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Nowhere Man wrote: |
| ...Gut instinct: They view Koreans the way that Americans view Mexicans... |
Perhaps a better analogy might be the way the English look at the Irish? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Or the Americans view Canada. The "51st state." |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| One japanese lady said to me deadly seriously "Koreans love to fight a lot, people who can't control thier emotions are not human, they are animals " |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| You should have asked her if its human to carry out genocide. |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Are we going to start that crap again? *sigh* |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Guri Guy wrote: |
| Are we going to start that crap again? *sigh* |
Its already been started. Going bac to what ubder troll Satori said, if the Koreans are animals because they like to fight what about japan's ultra aggressive military past? Does that make them animals too or something worse? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I once heard the Japanese perspective on Korea as seeing them as their retarted little brother. I can sure see how Japs could view Koreans as wild, boorish people who can't control their emotions. |
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Merlyn
Joined: 08 Dec 2004
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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One japanese lady said to me deadly seriously "Koreans love to fight a lot, people who can't control thier emotions are not human, they are animals "
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From watching Korean music videos, movies, and tv shows that show so much senseless gang violence and fighting. I can see where she gets that idea. Not a stretch at all really. Look at the Korean style of protesting and also the way the riot police go about enforcing as well. All good examples that might make an observing Japanese lady suggest this quite seriously. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Merlyn wrote: |
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One japanese lady said to me deadly seriously "Koreans love to fight a lot, people who can't control thier emotions are not human, they are animals "
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From watching Korean music videos, movies, and tv shows that show so much senseless gang violence and fighting. I can see where she gets that idea. Not a stretch at all really. Look at the Korean style of protesting and also the way the riot police go about enforcing as well. All good examples that might make an observing Japanese lady suggest this quite seriously. |
So then does the perevalence of pornography in Japanese society make them all depraved sexual weirdos? Maybe it does. Satori you feel right at home there dont ya? Purchasing used schoolgirls' panties and rape fantasy comic books. Sounds like fun. Satori should have asked her "buy any used panties from a 15 year old schoolgirl recently?" or maybe "Wanna sell yours"? |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Location: Kyungju
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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I was working in japan for a while, and the Korean wave(movies, music and stuff) has hit big time. There are pictures of Bae Eun Jeun everywhere. Seems like the Korean TV dramas show Japanese women how big the gap in gender equality is in Japan when compared to Korea( Did I get that right? Women in japan are powerelesscompared to Korean women). Japanese intellectuals and those who are sophisticated are quite envious.
This has spurred a big interest in Korea and the Korean language amongst the younger university aged and slightly older group.
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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http://www.2ch.net
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Japanese have traditionally shunned confrontation. They're known throughout the world for obedience and conformity. Of course, this has basically allowed the few to dominate the many, but, thanks to Channel Two, things have been changing a bit over the past few years.
Channel Two, or Ni Chaneru as it's known in Japanese, is the world's largest online bulletin board, according to Flash (12/24). Almost since its inception in May 1999, Ni Chaneru and the countless number of threads that stream from it, have managed to change thousands of Japanese from docile and demure to fierce defenders of justice acting as watchdogs for society or simply crusaders of craziness.
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/archive/news/2003/01/20030104p2g00m0dm998000c.html |
This is Japan's and maybe the world's largest internet forum site. If the general views on matters by the Japanese on that site moderately represent those of the whole population, Japan will be screwed up tomorrow.  Talk about xenophobia, racism, bigotry, and all other ugly human nature as all kinds of people gather without mods. Anonymosity + honne without tatemae work in full force. Especially, you can feel the love for Korea by the Japanese there. Most topics related to Korea are a guarantee for hot discussions(discussion is too a good word there..) and trolling. Maybe it can be likened to Naver's replies. Yahoo Japan seems more moderate like Daum for Koreans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Channel
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2channel has a conflicted relationship with Koreans. As 2channel is anonymous, racism and complaints that would not be made in polite company can be freely posted, and racism in Japan is often directed towards Korea. On the other hand, many 2channelers are interested in Korea, so there is a Hangul board on 2channel for academic discussion of Korean language and culture. This board is rife with racist trolling. The popularity of SJIS art Nida, curicutured Korean variation of Mona grown to such a level that a separate SJIS board, named Nida, was created for Korean bashing and humor. It was named after the SJIS caricature of an average Korean and the fact that many Korean language expressions end with the syllables "nida", e.g. "kamsa hamnida," meaning "thank you". The Nida character has pointy cheeks and is always complaining about discrimination and mistreatment by Japanese. He also has an explosive temper, somewhat inaccurately described as Hwa-Byung in 2channel. Nida is, arguably, the most popular subject of AA art along the line of such cartoon characters like Donald Duck, Wile E. Coyote and Eric Cartman. The plot usually revolves around his attempt to harass Mona or his attempts to become number one in the East which invariably fail, often with a comedic ending.
In April 2001, a sit-in demonstration was held in front of the Japanese Diet to protest an alleged whitewashing of Japanese history textbooks. Kim Yeong-jin, a member of the National Assembly (the South Korean parliament), attended and held a placard which said Nippon wa hanseishiru (日本は反省しる), which is nonsensical but can be rendered in English as Apolojuice, Japan!. The placard was meant to say Nippon wa hanseishiro (日本は反省しろ, or Apologize, Japan!); the kana for ro has obviously been miscopied, being very similar to the one for ru (compare る ru and ろ ro.) A photograph of him and this sign was taken and published on the webpage of the Korean newspaper Dong-A Ilbo[3]. Many members of 2channel found this quite amusing, and attaching shiru to the end of sentences is now quite common on threads concerning Korea. On western Internet forums, such as 4-ch.net, the phrase is often rendered as "apology juice." |
Youthful face of Japanaese nationalism
If you can speak Korean, you can also read most of the Japanese boards because the instant machine translation works fairly well between the two languages. I think translations from Japanese to Korean works much better than from Korean to Japanese because Koreans use only alphabets(Hangul) and they tend to make lots of mistakes with spelling and spacing while the Japanese complex letter systems prevent many of those problems. |
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Merlyn
Joined: 08 Dec 2004
Location: Korea
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So then does the perevalence of pornography in Japanese society make them all depraved sexual weirdos? Maybe it does. Satori you feel right at home there dont ya? Purchasing used schoolgirls' panties and rape fantasy comic books. Sounds like fun. Satori should have asked her "buy any used panties from a 15 year old schoolgirl recently?" or maybe "Wanna sell yours"?
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I was going to mention that as well, and then I thought about Korean pornagraphy and thought it might actually be worse. If you want sick, you don't have to look at Japanese porno, it is right here in Korea. |
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