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| Will america's illegal invasion and war in Iraq last longer than WW2? |
| WW2 will still be longer. |
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| Iraq, as long as they have oil, there will be war. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| flotsam wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
With the situation between Isreal, Syria and Lebanon getting worse, I wonder if the US will be sucked into a war there as well. |
Sucked in? In prime offensive position more like.
Hands up: you're surrounded!
Anybody who thinks the Bush admin hasn't been waiting and planning for the WW3 Lite that is about to go down has his head in the sand. |
Not sure what you meant by prime offensive position, maybe I missed something.
I agree with you though that this is GW's wetdream to be involved in WWIII. He probably has to change his pants three times a day he's so excited about it. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:21 am Post subject: |
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. 1945
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Sally went to camp on Sunday. Today is Monday. How long has Sally been at camp.
Correct answer: 1 day.
2 - 1 = 1 |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| WW2 started in 1914. All the years in between was just a break to recover. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
Some historians consider the Japanese invasion of Manchuria as the start of WWII. That may be what the poster was trying to say.
We like to compartmentalize history into nice little groupings. But as we have watched history unfold in front of us from east to middle east to west in even just the last 20 years, we see that the real world defies such compartments.
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Moreover, there is a growing movement among historians to stop regarding the two WWs as separate entities: it's really the same war with the same ultimate causes and a bit of a half-time.
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
Not sure what you meant by prime offensive position, maybe I missed something.
I agree with you though that this is GW's wetdream to be involved in WWIII. He probably has to change his pants three times a day he's so excited about it. |
I meant that there are U.S. ground troops like every other country in the Mideast right now. Not to mention allies like Turkey(which would love an excuse to occupy northern Iran and Iraq); and Israel which is already bombing Lebanon and could take out Syria faster than you can say baba-ghanouj.
Let's see: Turkey to the north, then Israel--Jordan/Syria--US occupied Iraq---Iran---U.S. occupied Afghanistan---and units stationed in several of the Central Asian Stans and Pakistan.
Hands up. |
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Plume D'ella Plumeria
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Location: The Lost Horizon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: |
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...And how do you spell t-r-o-l-l ?
Is a certain little pus-wart trying to stir up trouble? Someone with a serious hate-on for the U.S. and (seemingly) all things American?
Added to that, someone with atrocious writing, non-capitalization habits and punctuation deficiencies??
(I certainly hope there aren't any of these sorts of mistakes in this post or I will really look the fool)... |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Flot,
Thanks for the clarification on that. Yes, that's true we have troops in a couple European countires as well.
But the way I see it our armed forces are streached pretty thin right now. Because we've called up reserve units for Iraq, it's beginning to weaken the strength of our Armed Forces. We dont need to get into a full on WWIII right now. The US is already so far in debt because of our invasion of Iraq. How much more can we afford before we go bankrupt? |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I hear ya.
But you know a really great way to jumpstart an economy...? |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| The US is already so far in debt because of our invasion of Iraq. How much more can we afford before we go bankrupt? |
The U.S. credit is pretty darn good. When has the U.S. ever defualted on a loan? Been awhile, I'd imagine. More government spending means more money put into the economy. More money put into the economy means more buying and selling. That means a larger economy. It's all done with mirrors (seeings how none of this money is really backed with anything tangible) but it works pretty well.
Until one day when the U.S. can't get enough taxes to pay back what it owes. Not going to happen anytime soon. The U.S.A. is a rich country. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| WorldWide wrote: |
Yes it did end. Pappi bush cut and run, leaving hundreds of thousands of Shi'a to die at Saddams hands. The american military gave the impression they would back the Shi'a in revolution, but then left them to die. Troops were withdrawn from Iraq. |
Dude, between Farenheit 9/11 and Three Kings, you've certainly got your troll theories backed up on floppy. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Quick update. I tentatively threw Jordan in the red up there but felt that they would rather not get involved. From reading the papers today it seems they do want to remain at least Swiss as they are condemning the boys in Hezbollah. So let's do this:
| flotsam wrote: |
Let's see: Turkey to the north, then a little south we find Jordan and Israel--Syria--US occupied Iraq---Iran---U.S. occupied Afghanistan---and units stationed in several of the Central Asian Stans and Pakistan and Egypt and Saudi Arabia standing in the basement.
Hands up. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: |
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I think the real question is will WW3 last as long as WW2?
We've begun the initial stages i think. September 11 was the opening shot. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
I think the real question is will WW3 last as long as WW2?
We've begun the initial stages i think. September 11 was the opening shot. |
well said Junior |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Junior wrote: |
I think the real question is will WW3 last as long as WW2?
We've begun the initial stages i think. September 11 was the opening shot. |
well said Junior |
is this your first post outside of the current events forum? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Thousands Flee as Iraq Violence Deepens
By Ahmed Rasheed and Alastair Macdonald
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Tens of thousands more Iraqis have fled their homes as sectarian violence looks ever more like civil war two months after a U.S.-backed national unity government was formed, official data showed on Thursday.
Iraq's most powerful religious authority, Shi'ite Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, joined the United Nations and U.S. officials in raising the alarm that a spike in bloodshed and "campaigns of displacement" threaten Iraq's very future.
The U.S. military admitted violence in Baghdad was little changed by a month-long clampdown and the city morgue said it had seen 1,000 bodies so far in July, a slight increase on June.
A day after the United States issued a stern warning to both Shi'ite and minority Sunni leaders to match talk with action on reining in and reconciling "death squads" and "terrorists" from their respective communities, the Migration Ministry said more than 30,000 people had registered as refugees this month alone.
"We consider this to be a dangerous sign," ministry spokesman Sattar Nowruz told Reuters, acknowledging that many more people fled abroad or quietly sought refuge with relatives rather than sign up for official aid or move into state camps.
The increase took to 27,000 families -- some 162,000 people -- the number who have registered for help with the ministry in the five months since the February 22 bombing of a Shi'ite shrine at Samarra sparked a new phase of communal bloodshed.
Among 11 new tented camps being set up by the ministry is one in the southern city of Diwaniya, where police said some 10,000 Shi'ite refugees have arrived in recent weeks.
They include Abd Hammad al-Saeidi: "Gunmen told us to leave or they would kill us," said the farmer from the violent lands just south of Baghdad.
His family of 11 now live in a tent.
At a Sunni mosque in Baghdad, Red Crescent officials said numbers taking refuge there rose sharply after suspected Shi'ite militiamen killed 40 in the Sunni district of Jihad on July 9.
Mother of 10 Um Yaseen recalled fleeing the area: "It was a black day ... and not a single policeman was there to help us."
CRACKDOWN
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/iraq_dc ... etc ... |
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