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ed4444

Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:12 am Post subject: Grrr!!!! When will the British learn... |
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.... that Ireland has been independent for over 70 years and is no longer a British country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5209648.stm
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Some British teams have already started their qualifying rounds for the Champions league and Uefa Cup - and more will be entering soon.
BBC Sport checks out which British teams are involved, when others are joining in, and the key dates in the Champions League and Uefa Cup campaigns for the 2006/07 season. |
The following teams are included from the Republic of Ireland:
Cork
Drogheda United
They do this all the time in the British media. Sometimes I wonder if they have geography lessons at all in school there.
Thats the end of my rant for now. VANK you for reading. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:32 am Post subject: |
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I appreciate the sentiment but I think you have judged poor old BBC harshly in this instance. As my bold indicates, the writer stated that Irish teams would be mentioned along with the British teams. He later states that Cork are indeed Irish. I don't see any lack of geographical knowledge here.
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BBC Sport checks out which British teams are involved, when others are joining in including Irish sides, and the key dates in the Champions League and Uefa Cup campaigns for the 2006/07 season.
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
Premiership champions Chelsea and runners-up Manchester United, along with Scottish champions Celtic, have already qualified for the group stage of the Champions League.
Irish side Cork face former winners Crvena Zvezda and Hearts face Bosnians Siroki Brijeg in the second qualifying round, with the ties to be played on 26 July and 2 August. |
Here we see that Drogheda is not actually singled out as an Irish team but I think it was for the sake of brevity, and not geographical ignorance.
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Hoping to join them are Welsh teams Rhyl and Llanelli, as well as Glentoran, Derry City, Drogheda United and Portadown, who are all halfway through Uefa Cup first qualifying round ties. |
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ed4444

Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: |
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I think someone must have complained directly to them because that clause was just added to the page. |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: |
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The article clearly describes them as Irish teams, not British ones. After 70 years, I think it's time to let the inferiority complex go. |
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ed4444

Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Bigverne,
Why I am not surprised that you did not believe me when I say it was edited after I originally posted it. |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: |
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i suppose ireland is still part of the british isles.....
maybe its time irish people stopped relying on the bbc and got some decent networks of their own. |
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ed4444

Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: |
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safeblad wrote: |
i suppose ireland is still part of the british isles.....
maybe its time irish people stopped relying on the bbc and got some decent networks of their own. |
The term British Isles is another outdated Colonial term that is only used by British people and those who cut and paste from said literature. |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: |
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ed4444 wrote: |
safeblad wrote: |
i suppose ireland is still part of the british isles.....
maybe its time irish people stopped relying on the bbc and got some decent networks of their own. |
The term British Isles is another outdated Colonial term that is only used by British people and those who cut and paste from said literature. |
Whats the PC term for Britain and Ireland and the surrounding isles? Or aren't we allowed a joint term for 2 nations? |
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ed4444

Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: |
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A joint term would not be a problem as long as it did not have colonial overtones.
The title British Isles suggests British ownership which of course is no longer the case despite what Bigverne may think.
Imagine if Japan included Korea in a region called the Japanese Imperial Territories. Probably wouldn't go down very well. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: |
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I suppose then that you support Korea's effort to change the sea of japan's name to the east sea? |
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sekki
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Poor little Irish... like the Kiwis and Canadians - boo hoo - you have a better, far more advanced brother - tears for you ㅠㅠ |
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JLarter
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: |
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My passport read: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
That would be the official name of our great nation. |
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ed4444

Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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JLarter wrote: |
My passport read: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
That would be the official name of our great nation. |
Yes that is the official name.
By the way, the correct way of typing the sentence you attempted in the present tense is
My passport reads: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
I hope for the students sake you are not a teacher with grammar like that. |
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ed4444

Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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bucheon bum wrote: |
I suppose then that you support Korea's effort to change the sea of japan's name to the east sea? |
No, but I do think the idea of naming a sea the east sea is just as self obsessed as naming a sea the north sea however. |
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ed4444

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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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sekki wrote: |
Poor little Irish... like the Kiwis and Canadians - boo hoo - you have a better, far more advanced brother - tears for you ?? |
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Per capita GDP is 10% above that of the four big European economies and the second highest in the EU behind Luxembourg |
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ei.html#Econ |
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