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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject: Muslim Race Hate Attack in Seattle! |
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Suspect ticketed before Jewish center shootings
Police: Pregnant woman was shot in arm protecting her abdomen
Saturday, July 29, 2006; Posted: 10:00 p.m. EDT (02:00 GMT)
Naveed Afzal Haq is brought into a courtroom Saturday after being booked into the King County Jail.
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SEATTLE, Washington (CNN) -- A man accused of killing one woman and wounding five others at a Jewish center Friday was ticketed for a minor traffic violation a half hour before the shootings, the Seattle police chief said Saturday.
The suspect, Naveed Afzal Haq, a U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent, did "nothing to arouse the officer's suspicion," Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske said in a news conference in which he provided new details of the shootings.
Three of the shooting survivors were in serious condition, according to Harborview Medical Center; the other two victims were in satisfactory condition, including a woman who is five months pregnant. Police said she was shot in the arm while covering her abdomen.
The wounded range in age from 23 to 43. Although all were women, nothing indicated that women specifically were targeted, Kerlikowske said. (Watch armed police take aim as panicked women run -- 1:44)
Haq was ordered held on $50 million bail Saturday pending formal charges of murder and attempted murder, according to The Associated Press.
The 30-year-old Haq, of Pasco, about 200 miles southeast of Seattle, is being held in King County Jail.
According to Kerlikowske, Haq was upset over three world events: U.S. involvement in Iraq; the U.S. backing of Israel; and what Haq said was the mistreatment of the Pakistani people.
Haq found the Jewish center by researching "something Jewish" on the Internet, Kerlikowske said.
The day before the shootings, Haq picked up .40-caliber and .45-caliber semiautomatic handguns from two different stores in the Seattle area after honoring the waiting period for purchasing weapons, Kerlikowske said.
Once he arrived at the Jewish center -- a heavily fortified building with bulletproof windows and security cameras -- Haq hid behind a plant outside one of the center's locked doors. When a young girl approached, he grabbed her and forced her to take him inside, Kerlikowske said.
"She could not have kept him out," the chief said. "She was a hostage at gunpoint."
After asking for the manager, Haq began shooting people inside the center about 4 p.m., Kerlikowske said. Eighteen people were inside the building at the time. One of the first victims was the pregnant woman.
According to witnesses, Haq said only that no one should call 911, Kerlikowske said.
"She crawled back to her office, and that's exactly what she did -- called 911," Kerlikowske said of the pregnant woman. "She was able to get him to take the telephone."
Once Haq began talking to emergency dispatchers, he calmed down, Kerlikowske said. He told the dispatchers: "I'm going to surrender and I'm laying down my gun," Kerlikowske said.
The 37-year-old woman confirmed to police that he put down the weapon, the chief said, calling her "a hero in my eyes."
Search warrants were executed at Haq's apartment and at his parents' home, Kerlikowske said. "A number of items of evidence" were seized, he said, including three computers.
Police watch temples, mosques
Police were protecting temples and mosques Saturday out of fears of retaliation, Kerlikowske said.
In a written statement, the Council on American-Islamic Relations on Friday condemned the attack.
"The American Muslim and Jewish communities must do whatever is within their power to prevent the current conflict in the Middle East from being transplanted to this country," the Washington-based civil rights and advocacy group said.
Robert Jacobs, Pacific Northwest Regional director for the Anti-Defamation League, said the league has been warning Jewish institutions to be wary and have adequate security because of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East.
If they cannot, he said, it would be better for Jews "not to congregate in one location that might be an obvious site."
Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels described Friday's shooting as "a crime of hate."
"There's no place for that in the city of Seattle," he said. "This was a purposeful hateful act, as far as we know, by an individual acting alone."
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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In a written statement, the Council on American-Islamic Relations on Friday condemned the attack.
"The American Muslim and Jewish communities must do whatever is within their power to prevent the current conflict in the Middle East from being transplanted to this country," the Washington-based civil rights and advocacy group said.
Take the word Jewish out of that sentence and it begins to make sense. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:51 am Post subject: |
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That guy was a sicko ... no excuses for shooting (or bombing) women and children.
It doesn't matter which side of the political spectrum you are sitting on... |
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sundubuman
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Location: seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:07 am Post subject: |
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lotsa sickos at loose in the world these days....in canada, america, england, france, italy, spain, turkey, russia, ethiopia, israel, lebanon, somalia, sudan, pakistan, afghanistan, saudi arabia, yemen, jordan, india, iraq, phillipines, australia, thailand, indonesia....
yep....just a lot of "sickos" no connection between it all....just a bunch of sickos clutching their Korans......all a coincidence....... |
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ddeubel
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| yep....just a lot of "sickos" no connection between it all....just a bunch of sickos clutching their Korans......all a coincidence....... |
and alot of sickos buying into terror and hate. So what are you clutching? Your own copy of Mein Kampf?
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bigverne
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| and alot of sickos buying into terror and hate |
Yes, and they are invariably Muslims. They also have their own version of Mein Kampf. It's called the Koran. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Just so you know, not all Arab terrorists are muslim.
And in case you didn't notice (as I'm sure none of you did): There seems to be no indication that the man was a Muslim.
He is a man of Pakistani decent.
If a white anti-Zionist were to have done that shooting would you have called him a muslim? I mean, is this your new definition of Muslim: "Killer of Jews"?
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According to Kerlikowske, Haq was upset over three world events: U.S. involvement in Iraq; the U.S. backing of Israel; and what Haq said was the mistreatment of the Pakistani people. |
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's cool that your (and the cartoonists) prejudice against Muslims is based on articles like this.
But if you read this article and take a moment, you may notice that it makes indication that this man is a Muslim.
And if you think that all Middle Eastern Terrorists are Muslims, you may want to read "Al- Qaeda" by Jason Burke. It clarifies this point within the first 20 pages. |
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Teufelswacht
Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| khyber wrote: |
And in case you didn't notice (as I'm sure none of you did): There seems to be no indication that the man was a Muslim.
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Ummmm... OK so in that article they don't say he was a Muslim, but how about these?
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| A Muslim-American man angry with Israel barged into the offices of the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle Friday afternoon and opened fire with a handgun, killing one woman and wounding five others before surrendering to police |
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| "I'm a Muslim American; I'm angry at Israel," |
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| Haq's father, Mian A. Haq, was a founding member of the Islamic Centre of Tri-Cities in Richland.... |
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| Witnesses said the man announced he was a Muslim-American as he forced his way into the federation offices just after 4 p.m. and fired randomly at employees with a semiautomatic 9-mm handgun. |
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003160576_webshooting29m1.html
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_072806WABshootingEL.3d89c1.html
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/279302_shooting28ww.html
I dunno, maybe I'm making a stretch here but I am willing to assume that the idiot was a Muslim. I guess I am relying on flimsy evidence like he said he was a Muslim and his father was the founding member of an Islamic center. But I guess I'm just being silly.
There are other issues revolving around this waste of skin, but the fact that he was a Muslim isn't one of them, IMHO.
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flotsam
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| and alot of sickos buying into terror and hate |
Yes, and they are invariably Muslims. They also have their own version of Mein Kampf. It's called the Koran. |
Please elaborate on the similarities. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| There seems to be no indication that the man was a Muslim. |
You're an idiot. |
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bigverne
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| Please elaborate on the similarities. |
Invented by, sorry 'revealed' to, a violent meglomoniac with a penchant for genocide, assasinations and war crimes. The sanction of violence against unbelievers (substitute subhuman Jews and Slavs), a belief in the religious supremacy of Muslims (substitute Aryans), military expansionism, and a vicious anti-Semitism. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Invented by, sorry 'revealed' to, a violent meglomoniac with a penchant for genocide, assasinations and war crimes. |
Yeah, and to think the Code Napoleon is still practiced in some places. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| But if you read this article and take a moment, you may notice that it makes indication that this man is a Muslim. |
He was a Muslim. The fact that the article does not mention this fact says a lot about the present state of the MSM in regards to its reporting of matters regarding Islam. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, and to think the Code Napoleon is still practiced in some places. |
Your point? |
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