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shoeboy



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those talking about keeping countries from going for the nukes...the US has been pressuring Japan to have them installed since 1992 and we used to have them here in Korea till the late 70's.

And we are not trying to prevent some arms race between Japan and Korea. Japan hasn't even got a military yet...they are still coming off their WW2 article 9 "self defence forces" phase.

And China is nothing to worry about...their ecomomic reforms are their primary concern and they will be the US 3rd biggest trading partner soon. Why would they ruin that for North Korea?
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoeboy wrote:
Japan hasn't even got a military yet...they are still coming off their WW2 article 9 "self defence forces" phase.


oh, so I guess that navy of theirs, which is the 2nd largest in the Pacific, doesn't qualify as "military"?
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W.T.Carl



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Japan's Air and Naval Forces are some of the finest in the world and Japan is responsible for controling a 1000 square miles around the home islands. And where do you think the US has it's major strategic bases? In Japan of course. Most Air units in Korea are tactical and there is no major navy base on the penisula.
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shoeboy



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
shoeboy wrote:
Japan hasn't even got a military yet...they are still coming off their WW2 article 9 "self defence forces" phase.


oh, so I guess that navy of theirs, which is the 2nd largest in the Pacific, doesn't qualify as "military"?



No, it doesn't.
"Military" suggests it can be used for offensive action. If you can't attack you ain't got no military. It was hard enough getting them just to commit reconstruction forces much less get the Japs looking to enter an arms race.

And US bases aren't Japanese bases so how does PaComs location do anything to encourage Jap-Korea arms race?
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoeboy wrote:

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It was hard enough getting them just to commit reconstruction forces much less get the Japs looking to enter an arms race.


Uhh you know, I'm not Mr. Cultural Sensitivity or anything, but...
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
bucheon bum wrote:
shoeboy wrote:
Japan hasn't even got a military yet...they are still coming off their WW2 article 9 "self defence forces" phase.



oh, so I guess that navy of theirs, which is the 2nd largest in the Pacific, doesn't qualify as "military"?



No, it doesn't.
"Military" suggests it can be used for offensive action.


Can you provide a link to a dictionary definition of military that specifies offensive action? The definition I found at dictionary.com makes no such specifications.

Quote:
n. pl. military, also mil�i�tar�ies
Armed forces: a country ruled by the military.
Members, especially officers, of an armed force.


(Each line is a separate defintion for the noun)

If military means "armed forces", and Japan doesn't have a military, does that mean that Japan doesn't have armed forces?
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