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Contracts must be written in English and Korean!!!

 
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Rios



Joined: 05 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Contracts must be written in English and Korean!!! Reply with quote

After doing more research, this newbie just found out that all contracts, required by the court, must be written in English and Korean and signed by the teacher in order to prosecute an employer in case an employer violates a contract.

Visit the link below and the "Quotes by Recruiters and Employers" links for more info!

http://englishschoolwatch.org/quotes_employer2.shtml

-Rios
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read that to and you should get a copy written in Korean for that very same reason. Good research!
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many people actually get to the court proceedings stage when they have contract problems here?
How would a newbie applying from a bush Station in the outback of Australia know the Korean translation is a direct translation?
When you print the contract out on your own computer back home, doesn't the Korean come out in mathematic symbols?

Honestly, is there anyone on this board that has been to court over a contract?

Although technically a contract may be null and void if it is not written in both languages, I think the argument is null and void as no one ever seems to get as far as facing Judge Kim over their crappy contract dilemmas.

It would be great if everything in this country was done to the letter of the law, but it just aint gonna happen...ok gotta go now, the pedestrian light has turned green and now I know it is safe to cross the street without fear of being hit by an ajessi in an EQUUS.
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad he's researching how contracts should be written! When he arrives in South Korea his contract will be a model contract, and he will have protection if it is written how it's should be written.

Rios good for you Cool Keep up the good work, and study Korean Labor Laws while you're at it.


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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alabamaman wrote:
When he arrives in South Korea his contract will be a model contract, and he will have protection if it is written how it's should be written.


Or, he'll never make it here because very few schools will likely ever sign a contract that is fair to the teacher. I don't remember if this is the same guy who took the contract and with every article said "To my understanding..." "I don't think you can do this...." and "I must have .....".

Getting the perfect contract is probably never going to happen. I would love to be corrected, but people need to remember that schools are not going to take it up the pooper just so you think it's fair. They'd rather just go find some other poor schmuck that doesn't know better. On the other hand, if everyone did research and stood together, we'd have a chance of real change. But the chances of this unity happening is about as high as Koreans admitting that it's not Dok-do, but rather Takeshima.

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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="kprrok"]
alabamaman wrote:
When he arrives in South Korea his contract will be a model contract, and he will have protection if it is written how it's should be written.


Or, he'll never make it here because very few schools will likely ever sign a contract that is fair to the teacher. I don't remember if this is the same guy who took the contract and with every article said "To my understanding..." "I don't think you can do this...." and "I must have .....".

So what if he did! He's taking a chance which I haven't seen anyone do like he did considering where he's at. He put his neck out there evaluating a contract when some of the people who have been here a heck of alot longer than him don't contribute to giving feedback period!
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't have any problem with the fact that the guy wanted some changes. I thought his tone and the way he wrote things was in poor taste and tact. I also got offered a scheise contract, but I went about things much differently. I ended up getting 90% of what I wanted. I decided that I wasn't gonna get a perfect contract, and once I hit that, it was easy. I was always nice and polite in my requests.

I think that if he keeps the attitude that I detected in that one post, he won't get a job here. But that's cool. It's his life.

KPRROK
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adverge



Joined: 16 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My contract has a line in it that states "The teacher will follow all the rules and policies of the school during the contract year."

I found out that this means that the school can change the rest of the contract whenever they please and say it's school rules and policies.

Don't bother trying. Just accept and move on and get your year done with.
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Yesanman



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: Chungnam

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean to criticize the good work that the contract checkers
are doing but...
I've always been told that for Koreans a contract is just a guideline
for behaviour, it isn't a set in stone document as in the west.
So don't you think that perhaps this pursuit of the golden,
perfect contract is futile. I don't believe that having the perfect contract
will actually offer Rios any protection.
The hakwon owner will just do whatever he wants anyways.

As for contracts being written in Korean,
umm, wasn't that a little obvious.
Don't you have to submit a contract, in Korean, to immigration. I did.
Again making the perfect contract search futile,
unless you can also write one in Korean.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aussiekimchi wrote:

Honestly, is there anyone on this board that has been to court over a contract.


Yes. Honestly, I have. And, i know of 2 others.

The English version is the one the courts use, and it differs greatly in detail to the korean. The english version will need to be translated for the court.
As someone said above, the Korean version is mainly for immigration.

And, if you think going to court is a lesson in futility, you are quite wrong. Courts here actually have no patience for people trying to cheat a signed agreement.
EFL-Law will back me up on that.


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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad someone came on here and said that.

Thanks "eye".
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Eye...that is reassuring. Was it a long process getting to the court stage?
Could you give us an overview of what happened?
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a fairly long process to GET to court. There were three labor board hearings that went in my favor. Each time, the employer was given a time limit to pay what was owed, and three times they ignored the judgment...and stalled.

In total, it was 6months due to their stalling tactics.

I filed a with the local court after the third time limit expired. The judge looked over my documents, asked a couple of questions to my old employer and then handed a decision in my favor.
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