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Real Reality
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 Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: North Korea 2nd Largest Recipient of Food Donations |
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N.Korea Second Largest Recipient of Food Donations
North Korea was the second largest recipient of the world food donation last year. A report by the UN World Food Program shows North Korea was the second neediest country in the world in 2005, having received 13 percent of the total food donated following Ethiopia. Sudan ranked third.
WFP figures show nearly half of the total food aid to North Korea came from China, which only stopped receiving international food donation last year. South Korea was the North's second biggest food donor, contributing 36 percent of total donations.
Chosun Ilbo (July 21, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200607/200607210025.html |
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Real Reality
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Seoul to Give $20 Million to North's Flood Victims
South Korea will provide North Korea with 20 billion won ($20.6 million) worth of relief goods to help flood victims, a senior Unification Ministry official said on Friday.
By Park Song-wu, Korea Times (August 11, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200608/kt2006081117412210230.htm |
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ed4444
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: |
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I don't get it.
Where is the negative angle on South Korea donating food to the North?
To me it seems to be something good.
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South Korea will provide North Korea with 20 billion won ($20.6 million) worth of relief goods to help flood victims, a senior Unification Ministry official said on Friday.
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What kind of goods are included in this? Could it be that the goods are only things that could be used in a relief operation and not benefit the military?
What is bad about that? |
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jinju
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| ed4444 wrote: |
I don't get it.
1. Where is the negative angle on South Korea donating food to the North?
2. To me it seems to be something good.
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South Korea will provide North Korea with 20 billion won ($20.6 million) worth of relief goods to help flood victims, a senior Unification Ministry official said on Friday.
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3. What kind of goods are included in this? Could it be that the goods are only things that could be used in a relief operation and not benefit the military?
4. What is bad about that? |
1. Songun policy. Army first. Guess who gets the rice first. Yean, good guess Einstein, its the army. Second? LOyal cronies. Last? Oh yeah, the starving people.
2. Feeding the army of an enemy is never good.
3. Makes no difference. Transfer of all goods, and this includes humanitarian ais should be suspended permanently.
4. Whats bad is that it keeps a regime that should have its legs kicked out from under it, going and going and going. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:01 am Post subject: |
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RR...
New article you might like..
Scientist finds there is no air on the moon
Source: The Negative pole journal of unscientific facts |
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ed4444
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
1. Songun policy. Army first. Guess who gets the rice first. Yean, good guess Einstein, its the army. Second? LOyal cronies. Last? Oh yeah, the starving people.
2. Feeding the army of an enemy is never good.
3. Makes no difference. Transfer of all goods, and this includes humanitarian ais should be suspended permanently.
4. Whats bad is that it keeps a regime that should have its legs kicked out from under it, going and going and going. |
I am well aware of the Songun Policy. Perhaps you are also aware that the starvation of close to 1 million people already failed to bring down the regime.
The point I was making was not about the fact that food was donated.
I was just pointing out that South Korea donating food as part of an International Operation is not a negative observation.
BTW what does the word yean mean Edison? Are you inventing a new language? |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Homer, what is your point really? Real Reality posted articles from Korean newspapers and people are now debating and discussing them. Is this troubling to you?
It is one more nail in Communism's coffin. It just doesn't work. North Korea is a failed state pure and simple. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| ed4444 wrote: |
1. I am well aware of the Songun Policy.
2. Perhaps you are also aware that the starvation of close to 1 million people already failed to bring down the regime.
The point I was making was not about the fact that food was donated.
3. I was just pointing out that South Korea donating food as part of an International Operation is not a negative observation.
4. BTW what does the word yean mean Edison? Are you inventing a new language? |
1. Really? Didnt sound like that.
2. They were bailed out by bleeding hearts like you. Too bad. The world should have let them starve, not bail them out.
3. Anything that helps that regime out is a negative.
4. Its a typo. |
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Real Reality
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Gwangjuboy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| ed4444 wrote: |
| I am well aware of the Songun Policy. Perhaps you are also aware that the starvation of close to 1 million people already failed to bring down the regime. |
Donating food does nothing to help those people because they don't get it. If Korea stopped donating food maybe some of the DPRK's troops might starve. There is already evidence that they don't get enough. |
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ed4444
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
Donating food does nothing to help those people because they don't get it. If Korea stopped donating food maybe some of the DPRK's troops might starve. There is already evidence that they don't get enough. |
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| The government will offer relief to North Korea via the South Korean Red Cross and humanitarian groups to help the impoverished country recover from last month�s severe flood damage. |
from
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200608/200608100018.html
Do you think the Red Cross is just handing it directly over to the military? |
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soviet_man
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Here is my opinion -
Most Koreans don't see themselves as "North Korean" or "South Korean" but rather as "Korean" period.
They don't make the distinction in their language usage or their cultural practices about the physical divide in the country.
They see themselves as one race and one country.
As such, in this case, I think that the symbolism is far more important than the act itself.
Pyongyang would interpret the gesture of the South sending funds and assistance to the North as being a sign that: the ROK government wants the status quo to continue.
For the ROK to impose sanctions against the DPRK - would be like punishing a close family member - something they wouldn't do.
Therefore I would argue you can't simplify the argument down to a purely economic one (eg. "north korea is a failed state because it is communist") without addressing the far bigger issue of Korean identity politics and how all these people think they will somehow eventually have to work together with one another in the future. |
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Guri Guy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| Fair enough. North Korea is a failed state for many reasons. The biggest one being KJI. |
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Gwangjuboy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| ed4444 wrote: |
| Do you think the Red Cross is just handing it directly over to the military? |
Do you think the North Koreans will let the red cross unrestricted access to the country? If they are lucky the North Korean government might let them see a "model" village somewhere. Without unfettered access to the country the Red Cross will not be able to verify who is getting the food. |
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Gwangjuboy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
| Therefore I would argue you can't simplify the argument down to a purely economic one (eg. "north korea is a failed state because it is communist") |
It isn't a failed state. Somalia would be an example of a failed state. |
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