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stevieg4ever · Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England

, what it relates to and lastly who is the biggest apologist around?

Thanks in advance

SuperFly · Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse

normal person: I WAS ASSUALTED ON THE SUBWAY LAST NIGHT!

apologist: WHAT?! I'VE BEEN HERE TEN YEARS AND THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED TO ME OR ANYONE I KNOW, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? IT MUST BE YOUR LACK OF CULTURE. WHAT WERE YOU WEARING? I BET YOU WERE DRESSED LIKE A HO SKANK.

normal person: I'm a guy

apologist: IT'S STILL ALL YOUR FAULT.

(joking)

crazykiwi · Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Location: new zealand via daejeon

it is someone who thinks the sun shines out of koreas ass. whenevr someone tries to have a rant about something out of the ordinary or very ordinary that has happened to them in korea, someone jumps down their throat and tells them to go home if they dont like it. always "apologising" for koreas misgivings, because its "their country" and if you dont like it, then leave." tends to get a bit old after a while. usually its either some one who has been here forever, someone who has just got here, or someone who is in a bad mood. anyway, this thread is full of them

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=63456

SuperFly · Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse

stevieg4ever · Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England

but isnt that your fault because through a long cosmological chain of cause and effect you are culturally less able then me and i am superior to you blah blah... joke Laughing

yeah i kind knew in a round about way what it was just couldnt put my finger on it.

hawgwon doesnt pay up = cultural relativism = go home
you get abused, starred at, exploited = cultural relativism = go home

thanks

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

I disagree.

There is a line between whining and bigotry and apologists point out when someone has crossed that line. Whiners can't stand it when someone calls them on their s*it.

tomato · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:52 am Post subject:

An apologist is a person who dares to say anything nice about Korea,
and usually gets retorts likes these:

�� "If you see anything good about Korea, then you are not looking deeply enough under the surface. In fact, you are a naive, gullible, fool."

�� "You can't possibly be happy here. You must be compensating. You're like a white person who shakes hands with every black person he sees."

�� "If you're better off here than you were in your own country, then you must have been a real loser in your own country."

�� "If you're loyal to Korea, then you're a traitor to your own country. You didn't give a hoot in hades what happened on nine-eleven, do you!"

�� "So you like Koreans better than you like us, huh? All right, then, reject us! See if we care!"

�� "What right do you have to be happy when we are unhappy? Don't you know there is a Law of Conservation of Happiness?"

�� "Oh! So you're happier than we are! So you must be better than we are! Well, touch you!"

billybrobby · Joined: 09 Dec 2004

I think a dictionary could have prevented this thread.

Both "sides" are going to give sarcastic definitions of apologist and whiner. And they're all going to be knee-slappingly hilarious. The funnier question is who is the biggest apologist and who is the biggest whiner.

Apologist: Patchy then Homer (sorry Homer)
Whiner: It was Derreck, but now it's Hellofaniceguy or Adventureman.

captain planet · Joined: 18 Jul 2006

average foreign teacher: anyone who eats kimchee for breakfast probably eats fetuses for lunch.

apologist: judging someone for eating fetuses is a western cultural standard not shared by koreans with confucian ideals.

average foreign teacher: homo.

apologist: facist.

TheUrbanMyth · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired

Apologist=someone who can't stand racists

Whiners=racists

These are generalizations of course,but they are more true than not.

Homer · Guest

Silly question OP.

The whole apologist vs whiner thing is dumb at best. It is used by people who need to see things in black and white in order to make sense of their world.

The reality is that you only get a partial (at best) view of anyone on here from their posts.

I get tagged as an apologist and if that term is useful for some here then good for them.

Tomato made a good point in his post but the term apologist gets tossed around like its on sale 2 for 1 around here.

Best of luck with your question steve....oh and by the way...according to board classification you are at present a newbie and will soon become either an apologist or a whiner. Give it time man.

Unless of course you prefer to be normal and accept that people debate from their own points of views and that differences of opinion are normal.

Oh and billy, no apologies required my man...the tag of apologist is in my opinion irrelevant so feel free to tag me and other users at will. Wink

Guri Guy · Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island

stevieg4ever · Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England

all i was doing was asking for a definition of a word, anyways at least it will never happen again Very Happy

so what would you say i am an apologist or whiner then Laughing

peace

Guri Guy · Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island

Hee hee. Just kidding. I like to think of myself as a realist. I see the good and the bad about living and working in Korea. Sort of in the middle of apologist and whiner. Be like me. Wink

There are good and bad things about Korea just like any country. Naturally on this board the negative things get more press. Keep it balanced and you will be fine. Clear as mud right?

billybrobby · Joined: 09 Dec 2004