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Octavius Hite
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Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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 Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: Bush Flip-flops on 9-11 and Iraq, shocking! |
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I am just shocked, shocked. How dare the elite, liberal media accuse the great leader of twisting the facts of 9-11 to justify the illegal invasion of Iraq. LOL!!! 
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/21/bush-on-911/ |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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Commission confirms links
By Stephen J. Hadley
A 9/11 commission staff report is being cited to argue that the administration was wrong about there being suspicious ties and contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda. In fact, just the opposite is true. The staff report documents such links.
The staff report concludes that:
�Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with Iraq during his time in Sudan."
�"A senior Iraqi intelligence officer reportedly made three visits to Sudan, finally meeting bin Laden in 1994."
�"Contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda also occurred after bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan."
Chairman Thomas Kean has confirmed: "There were contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda, a number of them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely there."
Following news stories, Vice Chairman Lee Hamilton said he did not understand the media flap over this issue and that the commission does not disagree with the administration's assertion that there were connections between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's government.
President Bush and members of his administration have said all along that there were contacts and that those contacts raised troubling questions.
For instance, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is the leader of a terrorist group that is responsible for a number of deadly attacks throughout Iraq. He and his men trained and fought with al-Qaeda for years. Zarqawi's network helped establish and operate an explosives and poisons facility in northeast Iraq. Zarqawi and nearly two-dozen al-Qaeda associates were in Baghdad before the fall of Saddam's regime. In 2002, one al-Qaeda associate bragged that the situation in Iraq was "good" and that Baghdad could be transited quickly.
It may be that all of the contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda never resulted in joint terrorist attacks. But considering all that we knew, no responsible leader could take for granted that such a collaboration would never happen.
Saddam had threatened American interests for more than a decade, harbored and assisted other terrorists, and possessed and used weapons of mass destruction. Al-Qaeda had declared war on America, and bin Laden had called the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction to attack Americans a "religious duty."
The president did not order the liberation of Iraq in retaliation for 9/11. He sent American troops to Iraq to remove a grave and gathering threat to America's security. Because he acted, Iraq is free, and America and the world are safer.
Stephen J. Hadley is deputy national security adviser to President Bush.
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Find this article at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-06-17-hadley_x.htm
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Commission confirms links
By Stephen J. Hadley
A 9/11 commission staff report is being cited to argue that the administration was wrong about there being suspicious ties and contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda. In fact, just the opposite is true. The staff report documents such links.
The staff report concludes that:
�Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with Iraq during his time in Sudan."
�"A senior Iraqi intelligence officer reportedly made three visits to Sudan, finally meeting bin Laden in 1994."
�"Contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda also occurred after bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan."
Chairman Thomas Kean has confirmed: "There were contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda, a number of them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely there."
Following news stories, Vice Chairman Lee Hamilton said he did not understand the media flap over this issue and that the commission does not disagree with the administration's assertion that there were connections between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's government.
President Bush and members of his administration have said all along that there were contacts and that those contacts raised troubling questions.
For instance, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is the leader of a terrorist group that is responsible for a number of deadly attacks throughout Iraq. He and his men trained and fought with al-Qaeda for years. Zarqawi's network helped establish and operate an explosives and poisons facility in northeast Iraq. Zarqawi and nearly two-dozen al-Qaeda associates were in Baghdad before the fall of Saddam's regime. In 2002, one al-Qaeda associate bragged that the situation in Iraq was "good" and that Baghdad could be transited quickly.
It may be that all of the contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda never resulted in joint terrorist attacks. But considering all that we knew, no responsible leader could take for granted that such a collaboration would never happen.
Saddam had threatened American interests for more than a decade, harbored and assisted other terrorists, and possessed and used weapons of mass destruction. Al-Qaeda had declared war on America, and bin Laden had called the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction to attack Americans a "religious duty."
The president did not order the liberation of Iraq in retaliation for 9/11. He sent American troops to Iraq to remove a grave and gathering threat to America's security. Because he acted, Iraq is free, and America and the world are safer.
Stephen J. Hadley is deputy national security adviser to President Bush.
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Find this article at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-06-17-hadley_x.htm
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That's scary!
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The commission's report says bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to [Saddam] Hussein's secular regime. Bin Laden had in fact at one time sponsored anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan.
"The Sudanese, to protect their own ties with Iraq, reportedly persuaded bin Laden to cease this support and arranged for contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda."
A senior Iraqi intelligence officer reportedly made three visits to Sudan, finally meeting bin Laden in 1994.
Bin Laden is said to have requested space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never responded.
"There have been reports that contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda also occurred after bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan, but they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship," the report said. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: |
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So Joo, Bin Laden really was behind 911?
Hmmmmm ... so goes the "official" conspiracy theory. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: |
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but Saddam did have contacts w/ Bin Laden
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| Chairman Thomas Kean has confirmed: "There were contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda, a number of them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely there." |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Thomas Kean is one VERY corrupt man  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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Iamthewitness.com 
great site |
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mithridates
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: |
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but Saddam did have contacts w/ Bin Laden
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| Chairman Thomas Kean has confirmed: "There were contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda, a number of them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely there." |
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And? |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Bush Flip-flops on 9-11 and Iraq, shocking! |
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Absolutely pathetic
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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but Saddam did have contacts w/ Bin Laden
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| Chairman Thomas Kean has confirmed: "There were contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda, a number of them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely there." |
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Why were there contacts at all? To make plans for a wedding?
Besides Clinton thought there were contacts between Al Qaeda and Iraq too. |
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mithridates
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
but Saddam did have contacts w/ Bin Laden
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| Chairman Thomas Kean has confirmed: "There were contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda, a number of them, some of them a little shadowy. They were definitely there." |
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Why were there contacts at all? To make plans for a wedding?
Besides Clinton thought there were contacts between Al Qaeda and Iraq too. |
Yes, and?
(In case you haven't noticed I'm waiting for you to come up with a reason that makes 2,000+ soldiers lives and $300+ billion dollars worth it) |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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It is never worth it on the other hand the US had to do something about the mideast. 9-11 was worse than Pearl Harbor and worse than the Korean and Vietnam wars's combined in the damage it did to the US.
They can answer better than I can
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/06/04/nyt.friedman/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A13019-2003Mar11
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1110567/posts
I think you have read them all.
but anyway the mideast was a threat to the US and unless it is strategically changed then the US will continue to be attacked. Iraq by itself is not the whole war it is part of the war. The US can no longer accept war on the US by Bathists , Khomeni followers and Bin Laden lovers.
As I said it is never worth it but the war on the US by nations , groups and elites in the middle east was even worse.
The US could no longer allow the situation in the mideast to continue. There was another option but it was far, far more violent than just invading Iraq.
As I said it is never worth it but the status quo in the mideast was even worse. |
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tiger fancini
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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The president did not order the liberation of Iraq in retaliation for 9/11. He sent American troops to Iraq to remove a grave and gathering threat to America's security. Because he acted, Iraq is free, and America and the world are safer. |
Ummmmmmm......  |
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Wangja
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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ddeubel
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Wanja,,,,
I know it isn�t (sorry I am using a French keyboard) suppossed to be something we should want some levity about....but I needed a chuckle.
I would comment more but I have a French keyboard!!!!! still happy I can from time to time get French fries....
DD
PS. Joo, by the way, you are still so damn dumb. Forever as always posting things that back up your point when in fact they do the opposite. You�d read anything into ANYTHING. |
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