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denz
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: soapland. alternatively - the school of rock!
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 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:25 am Post subject: Re: Arabs in Itaewon |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
What they're saying, "Asalam wulakium." It is similar to annyeong hasseyo, ie something along the lines of "I welcome you with peace.". Nothing about god in it.
Anyway, when told "asalam wulakium" the response is "wulakium aslam," flip-flop in other words.
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ahaha. thanks anyway, bb. i should have put my "takin the piss" italics on. did yous forgot who i is: ;)
asalaam alaikum to a muslim
shalom alaikum is the same to a hebrew
peace akeem, akeem peace to a zulu
tell me what's the difference why you riffin what's the point of view?
- mc serch
jamaicans
christians eatin bacon,
when i greet my brothers
i say 'asalaam alaikum"
- brand nubian
dont let me have to pull out the jamaican in me
i'd rather pull out the asalaam alaikum in me
walaikum salaam, yo you wan tes' de don?
blao blao blao blao, buoy ya gone
- krs1
salaam, brother.
denz |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| whoops. I picked up the obvious part of it (the mule part) but was too dense to figure out the whole line was "taken the piss." Oh well, doesn't hurt to slap some knowledge down on those not in the know. |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Coffeecup
Joined: 30 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| There is, what, a BILLION Muslims in the world? Out of that number, I'd say 100,000 is pretty tiny. |
Haha, I can't believe I've done this -- again! This is the second time. My mind is strange when it's tired and simultaneously using numbers, I am not a numbers person.
So for the record, let me clear this up (this is second time I've had to do this, once before in another conversation a few months back on another site). Ok, there are approximately 1 Billion Muslims in this world, and about 10% of them -- or 100,000,000 million (not 100,000) -- are pledged to or directly associated with Al Qaeda. Again, that's 100 million, not 100 thousand. (The funny thing is, the last guy who I was arguing against actually corrected me and added to my base.)
Concerning all of the apologists' approach, no I do not relate to you, sorry. I know you might be lonely and need to drag someone into your thinking, but not me!  The simple fact of the matter is, terrorist Muslims blow things up. Koreans and Westerners don't. 
As for the user that threatened to bash me on this website in messages but then stated he stopped himself, let me say, good thing. I will strongly warn you now that if you ever, ever do that to me for simply using my right to free speech, I will not hesitate inform moderator(s). You might also want to revisit the #1 sticky -- forum rules -- and go back over the posting guidelines.
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| Yeah, you know Korea, it gives tons of aid to Israel, has troops all over the Middle East, and has antagonized muslims for ages. |
Terrorist Muslims are not politically rational -- they do not strike at those who are strong. They strike at achilles heels. The bar in Bali was not much different than a bar in Seoul or Pusan. It was loaded with 90% whites and other foreigners, that was all that was needed. At least one young woman was a white expat down there from Korea, and two of her friends were Korean women -- all apart of the ~200 people that were killed. You should realize that Terrorists do not strike at others because they are "victims" of oppression -- they strike at others because they are incapable of discussion and respect towards those that are not vigilantly like them. They kill their own kind, and their neighbors, for even miniscule infractions. These are people that deserve no compassion.
For the users that are saying "if there's a bomb blast in Korea, I'll buy you a beer," all I can say is that we should all be alot more serious than that. Again, a conscientious discrimination -- really nothing more than a "discernment" -- is appropriate in this age. It's not about hating people, it's about watching them. And it shouldn't be a crime nor an offense to talk about that, either. |
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adventureman
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Coffeecup wrote: |
| The simple fact of the matter is, terrorist Muslims blow things up. Koreans and Westerners don't. |
Oklahoma City, Abortion Clinics, Belfast, Spain,....... |
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| This is such a no-fun topic. Let's put the "fun" back into "fundamentalism." |
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Coffeecup
Joined: 30 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for bringing those up. Really appreciate it.
Yah... Proven to have links and relations with and support from middle-eastern terrorists. Thanks alot for bringing that up.
While not condonable, very specific targets with a very specific focus -- unlike Islamic terrorism, not designed to bring down entire societies and not geared to kill massive amounts of people with maximum carnage.
While of no interest to me, clearly again very specific acts by two warring peoples and governments. Not designed to occur just "any" place but are intended only within their own borders with very specific, and limited targets. I should add that with the excpetion of the Mid-East terror backing of OKC, none of these bombings are anti-Western and of much worry to the average Expatriate. Islamic terrorism is however a definate concern to Westerners. A Frontline (PBS) documentary shortly after the Sept. 11th attacks stated that Pentagon officials worried that with all the possiblities of future attacks throughout the world, two major spots ripe would be Korea and Japan -- high with Westerners, low on security. Again, now is an era of extra-caution and a freedom of healthy, open discussion, not tolerance-at-all-costs.
In the meantime, I think any Westerner should have the freedom to openly discuss concerns and observations with relation to terrorism either among fellows privately or in open forum, without being repetitively degraded or told he would be "spat at."
Hey, I noticed your avatar is really linked to the website of a business man in Excelsior Springs, Missouri  . I just kind of wondered if that guy in your picture wearing the American Flag colors is a relative or friend of yours. ... |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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On:Oklahoma City
Yah... Proven to have links and relations with and support from middle-eastern terrorists.
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Source please, for this 'proof'. A link will do fine.
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and about 10% of them are pledged to or directly associated with Al Qaeda.
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Now hang on. 10% of Muslims, you are saying, are associated with the Al Quaeda bogeyman? Well, your information here may be Fox news or Redneck weekly, but it would still be nice to see the source of your claims please. This is the first I've heard of such a statistic, I am genuinely interested to know where you got it from. |
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Wombat
Joined: 28 May 2003
Location: slutville
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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This is perrrrrrfect. Keep prattling on about the Islamic terrorists. We Hindus are secretly planning big, big things.
*evil cackle*
Gurmayi (future ruler of the Free World). |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe they were lying, but their lifestyle would suggest not.
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Yeah, maybe they were lying mate |
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denz
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: soapland. alternatively - the school of rock!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Wombat wrote: |
This is perrrrrrfect. Keep prattling on about the Islamic terrorists. We Hindus are secretly planning big, big things.
*evil cackle*
Gurmayi (future ruler of the Free World). |
not if us fundamentalist buddhists don't get them first.
blow up your nothingness. booyahkashot.
denz |
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Wombat
Joined: 28 May 2003
Location: slutville
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Curses! Foiled again by your blasted Ten-Fold Path of Enlightenment!
Your greatest failing, Buddhor, is the non-ascenscion of your realised beings. So, since they're skipping around helping the sick and suffering here on Earth (wimps), we can tidily assasinate them. But I've said too much already!
We shall meet again.
Hindatron. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, there are approximately 1 Billion Muslims in this world, and about 10% of them -- or 100,000,000 million (not 100,000) -- are pledged to or directly associated with Al Qaeda |
Do you realize this means that Al-Qaeda membership is three times the population of California? I second Butterfly's request for a source.
I suspect that those numbers. if they have any authenticity at all, were attained by a generous interpretation of the phrase "pledged to". Probably, a poll was conducted somehwere in which ten per cent of Muslims surveyed expressed views that weren't entirely anti-bin laden, and then someone turned around and said that this means they are "pledged to" Al-Qaeda. And, it seems unlikely to me that any actual terrorist would admit sympathy for bin laden to a total stranger who phoned him up out of the blue.
Fact is, I've known Irish people in Canada who cheer when they hear about IRA violence, but I'd hardly say that they are "pledged to" that organization, much less were actually planning to commit terrorrist acts themselves. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Terrorist Muslims are not politically rational -- they do not strike at those who are strong. They strike at achilles heels. The bar in Bali was not much different than a bar in Seoul or Pusan. It was loaded with 90% whites and other foreigners, that was all that was needed. At least one young woman was a white expat down there from Korea, and two of her friends were Korean women -- all apart of the ~200 people that were killed. You should realize that Terrorists do not strike at others because they are "victims" of oppression -- they strike at others because they are incapable of discussion and respect towards those that are not vigilantly like them. They kill their own kind, and their neighbors, for even miniscule infractions. These are people that deserve no compassion. |
Let's see, Indonesia has a muslim majority, Korea does not. There are is a very very small minority in Indonesia that wants an islamic state, not true in Korea. Sorry to break it to you, but terrorist muslims do in fact have political rational. I know, it goes against the idea that they're totally nuts and should be locked up for mental problems, but the scary thing is they do have some logic. Just because you aren't seeing the big picture doesn't mean it doesn't exsist.
And lastly, it is a hell of a lot easier to get away with something where you blend in than where you stand out. Furthermore, terrorists would have no support whatsoever from gov't officials here and corruption is not as rampant here as in Indonesia. Security is much more lax in Indonesia, although that might change after the Jakarta bombing.
As for the OKC bombing, please, do tell how islamic fundamentalists played a role in this. If it is true, you've got a breaking news story on your hands. The author of the book, "American Jihad," which is all about muslim terrorists in the usa, and makes it his career, says there is no connection whatsoever between OKC and muslim groups. Obviously he's not the ultimate source, but I certainly find him to be more reliable than you. |
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saharzie
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Coffeecup,
your knowledge of the istuation is about as depp as your knowledge of Muslim terrorists. The IRA did indeed strike outside it's borders, it's bombings were often indiscriminate (Warrington for one).
As OTOH said, there is a massive difference between having sympathy for a cause or organisation and being a direct threat to someone else. I know people who always vote for Sinn Fein, but they are not going to be firing mortars at anyone anytime soon...
Obviously you have to be vigilant, but when you are as vague and general in your vigilance, that's when the real threats slip through the net.
Yes Butterfly, they were lying. Both of them teach rudimantary tagalog in a hagwon in Yongdeungpo. They spend their nights drinking soju and complaining about their hagwon boss. They struggle by on 1.6 million a month, all the while dreaming of the midnight run to the green fields of Osaka..hope you feel better now 'mate' |
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