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stakay

Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject: I did it! I beat my shady, corrupt, filthy liar of a boss!!! |
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Boy have I had a few chuckles this week. I used to work at one of those infamous 'W' hogwans, and I've written here a few times in the past couple of months about receiving severance and my refund of the stupid housing deposit.
Well this week we, my fiance and I, got every single penny owed out of our scumbag boss!!!! Woo bloody hoo!!
Was not an easy feat, if you're thinking it was, because we did it while living in London.
I publicly thank a special Scottish lady, who may or may not read this board, as she acted as our power of attorney by attending meetings and making phone calls to the labour board on our behalf. Without her this wouldn't have happened. What a legend she is.
So there you go. You can do it, you can get your money owed if you've already left Korea.
One point for the lowly foreign hogwan teacher, zero for the lying cheating hogwan owner.
Good luck to anyone who finds themself in this unfortunate position.
And a huge cheers to my Scottish angel  |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats!
most shady hogwans rely on the fact that you are leaving the country and will be unable to pursue any action against them.
Way to go! |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, good job. If only more hagwon teachers had as much initiative as you and the Scottish lady, fewer hagwon owners would pull such stunts. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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VERY good news.
Oh, and hogwan owners do talk amongst themselves, (ala Linda Richman ). This could help others. |
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Cheonmunka

Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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Dan The Chainsawman

Joined: 05 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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When I get ran out of town I will be sure to let you know Chem. That lady sounds superb. |
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Her I thougt it was going to mean " I beat him with a stick, or a bamboo sword" or something along those lines. |
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korea252
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: Seoul, Haebangchon
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Stakay. It was no bother.
A big thanks should also go to Mr.Hong at the labour board, he was so helpful and made the whole process really easy and painless. He also came and found me when I got lost going to the labour board and then walked me to the bus stop and waited with me to make sure I got the right bus home! Nice guy. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations. Well done. I've been wondering for a while now if Korean Hagwons ACTUALLY pay any money owing/damages that are ordered by the Labor Board.
In my country, debtors and sneaky operators just don't pay the damages ordered by the court. Or they just pay one small installment and then you have to go back to court and repeat the legal process all over again. Sometimes, if you want your money it's better to hire a 'debt collector' (gang) to collect your dues. Can anyone advise if the Korean Labor Board decisions are observed (and money paid) by hagwon owners? |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:43 am Post subject: |
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rainbowtrout wrote: |
Congratulations. Well done. I've been wondering for a while now if Korean Hagwons ACTUALLY pay any money owing/damages that are ordered by the Labor Board.
In my country, debtors and sneaky operators just don't pay the damages ordered by the court. Or they just pay one small installment and then you have to go back to court and repeat the legal process all over again. Sometimes, if you want your money it's better to hire a 'debt collector' (gang) to collect your dues. Can anyone advise if the Korean Labor Board decisions are observed (and money paid) by hagwon owners? |
The labor board has no authority to ENFORCE its decisions in regards to award payments.
Having said that however, the board does have the authority to begin CRIMINAL proceedings against a hakwon for breach of the labor laws.
The fines and jail time involved with the criminal proceeding are usually far more severe than the financial loss if the hakwon has to pay an award ordered by the board.
With this implied (or sometimes overt) threat the board can be very persuasive when it comes to getting a settlement.
To the OP (and your agent) - congrats on your success. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Congratulations, and it's nice to see people help each other out here.
I don't often post on Job-related, but that thread title... almost sounded like there was physical violence.
Is "W" code for that rather notorious chain of hagwons? If so, why not spell it out? They can't hurt you know, can they? |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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JongnoGuru wrote: |
Congratulations, and it's nice to see people help each other out here.
I don't often post on Job-related, but that thread title... almost sounded like there was physical violence.
Is "W" code for that rather notorious chain of hagwons? If so, why not spell it out? They can't hurt you know, can they? |
actually...."W" is surprisingly enough not the infamous Wonderland chain but the new name of the financially and morally bankrupt chain AKA - EWHA - chain of hakwons.
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Congrats to you both!
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If only more hagwon teachers had as much initiative as you and the Scottish lady, fewer hagwon owners would pull such stunts. |
I agree with this.
You did good OP and such actions have a real positive impact (or at least the potential). This was good work and way stick it out and act through the legal system.  |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:23 am Post subject: |
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That was nice to hear. Did the hagwon owner actually lose anything, or did he merely have to pay what you deserved?
Unless he was penalized somehow, beyond merely paying what he owed, then that hardly deters hagwon owners from continuing to rip off foreign teachers, since they will not really lose anything by trying to rip people off, and sometimes get to keep cash. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: |
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But jajdude...it sets a legal precedent or ads to an already set legal precedent. This can and does lead to changes. |
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