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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Narrow-mindedness exists everywhere. Would you be surprised to know our very own beloved Tzechuk wrote the following?
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| I knew we would not be able to ever be together - he is African American, I am Chinese British - see the problem? |
Apparently love doesn't conquer all, at least not if you're the kind of person to whom colour and culture matter more than anything else. |
I noticed that too.
I was a little dissapointed by it as well, even though I realise Asians come under a lot more pressure to marry people of the same race than do westerners. I dated a half black/ Indian girl once and was pleased to note nobody in my family had any problem with it. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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You're making too much sense.
You are no longer welcome on this thread. 
On a serious note though,...you are right that there are times that you will take a beating. It's not a matter of if, but how.
Either sticking up for yourself and giving your best...or waffling and getting stomped like a sissy.
[Which makes your nationality/race a bigger target for the predators in the future.]
I could have, with some absent common sense ...not gotten into that situation in the first place...but I could never have gotten out of it once this guy, or these guys...targeted me. 
So I did what I could.
And it didn't go my way.
Or maybe I actually got out of it better than I would have if I took a different 'tack'.
Who knows?
It's 20/20...live and learn...
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Live and learn, my friend.
I'm 37. I haven't been in a fight since the age of 31.
But I've been stomped on a few times in the past.
Usually, it's the beer light.
What's a boy to do? |
I haven't been in a fight since I was 13, and it wasn't much of a fight. I just locked my friend's wrists and very lightly kicked him in the ribs a couple times (He was a boxer and thought that running around and punching people in the gut during gym class was funny. He didn't know I had been doing Tae Kwon Do for two years at that point in time).
Pardon the cliches, but if you go looking for trouble, it will find you. You simply have to be streetwise. I'm built like an olympic wrestler, but I try to stick to places that are well lit, etc. Luckily for me, the few times that I've come across people who are looking for a fight, they rarely give me a second glance before moving on to an easier target. In the very rare occasions that I think they were contemplating accosting me, I never stuck around long enough for them to do so.
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
I noticed that too.
I was a little dissapointed by it as well, even though I realise Asians come under a lot more pressure to marry people of the same race than do westerners. I dated a half black/ Indian girl once and was pleased to note nobody in my family had any problem with it. |
Really? I thought Judaism was passed matrilineally. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
I noticed that too.
I was a little dissapointed by it as well, even though I realise Asians come under a lot more pressure to marry people of the same race than do westerners. I dated a half black/ Indian girl once and was pleased to note nobody in my family had any problem with it. |
Really? I thought Judaism was passed matrilineally. |
I think its time you got over your racism, boy. It sems to be harming you more than anyone else.
Is that you in the avatar? Are you korean? |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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There is alot of crap esposed on race relations in this thread. Its pretty much myth and even more propoganda.
Black people are more racist than White people are.
White people are the least racist people on earth.
"Racism", the cry of simply evokes a pavlovian. It has little other value.
We all think Black women are unattractive. Yea, we all do that esp we men.
We all think women are more attractive based on "skin color". Thats science.
When I see the giant apartments here in korea, I know African Americans could never manage to live in them.
I dont miss the radcial divide of the US. I'm tired of hearing how Black pupils continually don't do well. I don't miss talk of slavery reparations at all.
I get tired of wondering if the White Supremists are actually right. |
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GoshiwonGuy
Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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For all the talk of love and race, etc...I am actually married to a Thai, have a Thai stepson and a halfer kid.
And my family is as mixed as can be (Whites, Natives, Thais, El Salvadorans, etc).
I just call it as I see it (as does everyone in my family, regardless of their race)...and I don't consider group/racial characteristics to take away from an individuals finer points.
[You'd be missing out on some quality people, and how many people can you mix with/marry in any case? May as well look at the individual first...].
But while we're at it, let's get one thing straight, at least.
While all people are 'racist'/biased...I don't think anyone, as a group, is less racist/biased than whites.
[And countless non-whites, while speaking frankly, have admitted as much to me].
We (whites) probably intermarry more than anyone else, allow others into our nations/families...and if our daughters/sisters choose to marry someone of another race...we don't intimidate/threaten/kill them as some groups are prone to do.
And if it is 'racist' to comment on the negative attributes or certain groups, why is it not equally 'racist' to comment on the positive attributes of the same group...or of other groups?
I have many, many positive things to say about the Japanese that have settled in Canada.
And I have never once been accused of 'racism' while giving my opinion with regard to them.
Again, tags like 'racist', 'antisemite', 'Nazi', 'Communist', 'pedo', 'X' are usually just smears that create a barrier to legitimate, honest, and reasonable...debate and discussion...
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| I get tired of wondering if the White Supremists are actually right. |
Much of what they say is right...which is why they are demonised.
Even their labelling is a smear.
Because in many cases the people are not white supremecists...they are white separatists.
That is that they feel that whites, blacks and certain others would best live apart, for any number of reasons.
[As well as some making a case that some religions would best not cahabitate in the same space/nation, i.e. Muslims and anyone else might be a good example].
And many of the 'racists' are in fact 'racialists'.
They believe that race matters (and that there are differences)...and hold views on that basis.
Nothing wrong with that, IMHO.
Nothing wrong with a 99% Korea for Koreans...and nothing wrong with a 99% Germany for Germans in my mind.
[And funny how people only have a big problem when it is a matter of white nations remaining white-but everyone else and their continent can be racially homogenous
The disingenuous sacks. ]
GG
PS. My Thai wife came to Canada and was horrified to find non-whites catered to over whites (Employment Equity, for example)...and hear the many examples of whites being pack-attacked by non-whites. She said, "You guys (whites) are bloody stupid. You are giving it all away to people who don't even respect you. And I came to live in a white country. If I wanted to live in a black/Indians/Chinese country....I'd have moved to Africa/India/China, etc..." Fair points, IMO.
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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We (whites) probably intermarry more than anyone else, allow others into our nations/families...and if our daughters/sisters choose to marry someone of another race...we don't intimidate/threaten/kill them as some groups are prone to do.
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I'm challenging this directly. There is no moral supremacy in interrational marriges or breeding. None. Absolutely none. You don't prove anything that way.
White people are the least racist becuase we have gone the farthest in eliminating the differences between White ethnicities. That is a feat in itself. |
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GoshiwonGuy
Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm challenging this directly. There is no moral supremacy in interrational marriges or breeding. None. Absolutely none. You don't prove anything that way. |
If you don't accept other races into your family and you don't even accept other races as citizens into your nations then you have no business crying racism against people that do...is my point.
If I tried to date a Sikh girl in Canada I would get major grief and she would be risking harm and, in some cases, even death.
But if a white father objected to his daughter marrying a Sikh man (or the Sikhs don't get something they want, even)...they automatically cry 'racism'.
How is it racist for whites but not for them?
Or is it just another con job?
Really, how many non-white nations will even give citizenships to whites who marry their nationals?
I can't ever reasonably hope to get Thai citizenship, even though I am married to a Thai, have half-Thai kids, lived there, and my wife, (as well as my 100% Thai step-son)...now has/have Canadian citizenship...
GG
PS. Great thread. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Science says that men prefer light skinned women. This means White women and light skinned Asians get picked first. Its about physical attraction and a big chunk of that is phsyical appearance. I don't care what your personal experiences are, you must consider social science statistics.
Some interracial couplings happen for other reasons of "blind love". Some times people hate males in one group so they stereotype all memebers and don't choose them for mates. White women qre popular due to socal ascenion and things like green cards. You can't prove "blind love". Its like proving god exists. |
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GoshiwonGuy
Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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When responding to your one particular point, ala...
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There is no moral supremacy in interrational marriges or breeding. None. Absolutely none. You don't prove anything that way. |
...I didn't go beyond this;
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| If you don't accept other races into your family and you don't even accept other races as citizens into your nations then you have no business crying racism against people that do...is my point. |
And with regard to who is most desireable or not and various claims of the social sciences (often bulls.hit, however)...or even the 'hard' sciences, (regarding things such as IQ, etc)...it possibly wouldn't be much of a debate.
I personally think alot of what us westerners think we currently 'know' is just bulls.hit, pc...propaganda; pure and simple...
*whistles*
GG |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| With regard to who is most desireable or not and various claims of the social sciences (often *beep*, however)..and even hard sciences, (regarding things such as IQ, etc)...it won't be much of a debate. Razz |
No its very simple
White Men + Asian Women = very often
White Men + Black Women = almost never
Why didn't White men want to marry Black women?
We can get really "in your face" or we can call it natural selection.
Attitude and demeaner of Black women? Plausible. Skin color and body composition? More plausible.
I havent figured out if these men and you are "racist" or not yet. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Ty for the chat GG. I have to go. Good luck on sorting it out. |
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GoshiwonGuy
Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers, I'm sorted.
And my scars look as great as scars can be expected to look...
Those Africans do good work.
GG |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| Most importantly, the OP had ample time to WALK AWAY. |
Sounds like a good theory, but I didn't have time to react to the Africans threats; be it walk away or otherwise.
GG |
Good try however that is NOT what one of your earlier posts said. You claimed that one of the Africans "told me I had five minutes to leave"
Then you said "I wasn't leaving just because some racist African demanded I do so at the threat of violence."
As for racism the only racist here is you. When another poster asked "and suddenly we are to draw conclusions about a whole demographic?"
You responded "stop the smoke people are well aware of Africans and their behaviour"
You then went on to spout more racist remarks. |
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GoshiwonGuy
Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Good try however that is NOT what one of your earlier posts said. You claimed that one of the Africans "told me I had five minutes to leave"
Then you said "I wasn't leaving just because some racist African demanded I do so at the threat of violence." |
Both are true.
But about 10 seconds after he said I had 5 minutes he reached down and picked up the bottle, haha.
Looks like he's not so good at counting and I probably wouldn't have left anyways...given the opportunity.
But I might have.
It's a moot point though, as I said I had no opportunity to leave, aside from running.
And I was not running, as I stated earlier.
So I spoke the truth.
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| As for racism the only racist here is you. |
Sure there's not one or two more hiding out?
[And I can't recall whether or not I said I was a 'racist'. I do vaguely remember saying that I don't care either way, though...  ]
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When another poster asked "and suddenly we are to draw conclusions about a whole demographic?"
You responded "stop the smoke people are well aware of Africans and their behaviour" |
So were these two directly related or are you compiling a greatest hits track?
Nevermind, we can draw some pretty reliable conclusions about people in many instances and most people with half a brain are well aware of the Africans and their general behavior.
Be it in Africa, America or..increasingly...in Itaewon.
We all need reminding sometimes though; let your guard down and give people the benefit of the doubt and it might be 30 stitches in your head...
*note to the Koreans to sweep Africans out of Korea as they're of little benefit to the nation*
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| You then went on to spout more racist remarks. |
Boo hoo.
Either what I have stated has been true or not true, but whether it is 'racist' or not is inconsequential.
*idea*
Go call the Africans.
They'll make everything all wight... 
GG
PS. Does anyone even care about being called a racist anymore? Calling whites racist is about as outmoded as calling blacks n.iggers. It's a fall-flat smear...if there ever was one... |
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