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Delirium's Brother



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: For Cubanlord and his ilk building god boxes Reply with quote

Here's something for you power users, hardgamers, and silicon gearheads to pine for. My question is does anyone make a mobo with a dedicated stick of ram per socket? Or is that still in the future?

edit: subject line for clarity


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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A dedicated stick? You mean to buy a mainboard with RAM installed aready? Built-in and unchangeable? Technically, that wouldn't be dedicated, in the computing sense of the word, but pre-installed.

Anways, I'm sure you know all the reasons why that would be a bad idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I meant dedicated (slot) in the sense of only answering calls from a specific cpu core, or perhaps cpu socket, as a way of dealing with communication bottlenecks. The article was talking about dual socket boards; that's the context in which I was asking the question. Perhaps I don't understand multi-threading and distributed computing as well as I would like.

I should have said slot, not stick.

While I'm at it, what is the maximum number of cpu's that you can load on one mobo before the amount of cpu sync chatter creates a problem of diminishing returns? Is this solely a FSB speed issue or is there more going on? I'm interested (in an academic sense) in this set-up here, except instead of 4x2core, given the above article I think 4x4core would be nice. That would have Cubanlord gaming like there was no tomorrow <wink> If he could find a game that supported SMP.

And another question, is it possible to channel bond video cards in the same way that you can with NICs? That would also help Cubanlord in his quest to create the ultimate bad boy gaming rig.


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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, not slot, nor stick...

There are no worries of bottlenecks with multi-core setups. This is (was) at the heart of the very idea of multi-core theory from the beginning. It would be absurd to think that this would even be a possibility (liability) with so much money at stake.

I'm not ridiculing you at all; it's a genuine wonder. The bigger issue is how Intel are going to try and sell a four-core setup to anyone but a nut like CL.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had more questions in my second post, but you were responding to the original version of it while I was I was still editting. Sorry.

Demophobe wrote:
The bigger issue is how Intel are going to try and sell a four-core setup to anyone but a nut like CL.

I'm pretty sure he's not alone, in his quest for `more power'. Although we've never met, when I read his posts in the tech forum, they sometimes give me the impression that he is the home computing world's answer to Tim "Tool-Time" Taylor (in a good way of course). You are kind of like Al.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
[...]The bigger issue is how Intel are going to try and sell a four-core setup to anyone but a nut like CL.


As I understand it cubanlord is a gamer, right? From that article we can easily see that quad core doesn't improve the "gaming experience" that much for now. Therefore "a mere hard core gamer" won't buy that thing. Certainly not with that horrible price tag it has! But someone who really needs real multithreaded crunching power... hell, yeah!

(Pst! I'd get it if I could afford it!)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was reading on another board, that the general consensus is that multi-threaded games are about 2-3 years out. Just about the time that Cubanlord will be considering an upgrade to his system (i.e. the one he just built).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delirium's Brother wrote:
I was reading on another board, that the general consensus is that multi-threaded games are about 2-3 years out. Just about the time that Cubanlord will be considering an upgrade to his system (i.e. the one he just built).


Ha! I bet he upgrades something by Christmas.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thunndarr wrote:
Delirium's Brother wrote:
I was reading on another board, that the general consensus is that multi-threaded games are about 2-3 years out. Just about the time that Cubanlord will be considering an upgrade to his system (i.e. the one he just built).


Ha! I bet he upgrades something by Christmas.


Crying or Very sad Man...I have been looking at an aqua cooler for my CPU......I'm pathetic. Laughing

I'll read what you guys have up there in a bit. I just got the assignments and syllabi for my courses; man....I thought I did good by reading a book and a half ahead. LOL. WRONG! Stay tuned...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Cubanlord: Dude, I am seriously disappointed in you after reading this:
Cubanlord wrote:
I have been looking at an aqua cooler for my CPU

An AQUA COOLER?!! You can't be serious! *groan* Oh man, come on... someone as hardcore as you should be looking at a phase-change cooling setup for his rig. Here's an over the counter solution. and here's a DIY solution. Anybody who says something like,
Cubanlord wrote:
A true warrior comes to battle with all his powers at the ready..

had better be ready to walk-the-walk. Wink

[chant] phase-change cooling, Cubanlord, phase-change cooling, Cubanlord, phase-change cooling, Cubanlord... [/chant]
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delirium's Brother wrote:
@ Cubanlord: Dude, I am seriously disappointed in you after reading this:
Cubanlord wrote:
I have been looking at an aqua cooler for my CPU

An AQUA COOLER?!! You can't be serious! *groan* Oh man, come on... someone as hardcore as you should be looking at a phase-change cooling setup for his rig. Here's an over the counter solution. and here's a DIY solution. Anybody who says something like,
Cubanlord wrote:
A true warrior comes to battle with all his powers at the ready..

had better be ready to walk-the-walk. Wink

[chant] phase-change cooling, Cubanlord, phase-change cooling, Cubanlord, phase-change cooling, Cubanlord... [/chant]


lol. Hence my usage of the word "looking". I am edumacating myself about coolers.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cubanlord,


I think you should take a really close look at the Zalman Reserator 2. HERE's a nice review of it. I think that its cooling capabilities will be more than enough for your current rig. With it you could even get rid of that noisy GPU fan you have. Very Happy

Zalman has older Reserator model as well, but it's not as powerful as the new one... even though I personally prefer the look of the older model. And you now what? The one really good thing about Zalman is that it's a Korean brand! Therefore it should be pretty easy to find one if you want one!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I understand, CL isn't overclocking, nor has he mentioned that he will be. Why all the fuss about coolers? The stock Intel is a good cooler, even for a mildly overclocked system. Surely he isn't worried about extending the projected ten-year lifespan of his CPU.

Superfluous is the only word to describe buying the coolers mentioned without serious overclocking.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you are right. Cubanlord doesn't have to o/c his rig for a while. But water cooling has one thing speaking for itself, even if you don't o/c. It's quiet and that's a reason enough for me. (Too bad I only have a laptop right now. Maybe my GF will let me mod her Shuttle SB83G5M for her if I ask really nicely? She's been complaining about the noise, so I may... uh, get lucky.)

I've seen (read of) some guys that have used water to cool their PSUs as well, but that's a bit too HC for me. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Demophobe:

Dude,
Come on, I mean seriously, all my suggestions have been so far over the top; you'd have to know that we're just blue-skying it a bit. Earlier I suggested a 16 core--4x4 cpu configuration! Let's be real. The only people that I know who could put that much horsepower to work are either doing hardcore research, working at the NSA, datamining THE PLANET, or gaming like Cubanlord (just kidding on that last one Wink). Besides, you're the one who started all this off with your comment that Intel's only customers for the 4core would be `nuts' like Cubanlord. But you're right, *sigh* I guess that we should tone it down a bit in case somebody is reading this and doesn't get the point/silliness, or better yet you could go with the fantasy for a while. Join in; have some fun. It can't last. If Cubanlord's wife finds out what we're upto here, we'll all be in a lot of trouble Wink .
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