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annabella
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Busan
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 Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: Renewing for a further 6 months... |
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I'm in my 8th month of my first contract, and would like to renew for a further 6 months. I'm really happy at my school (shock horror, it does happen!), and I'm positive that my boss would have no problem keeping me on. I've had no problems whatsoever, my pay is always correct to the nearest won, I have overtime when I need it (completely optional), and I have freedom to choose my own books and use my own resources in addition to those provided. I know that I've landed on my feet here - which is why previous teachers have also renewed - but I only want to do an additional 6 months as opposed to a full 12 month contract as there are other projects I want to pursue in the latter part of next year.
My current deal is this:
1.8m for 25 classes a week, Monday to Friday only, 3-8pm, 50mins per class. Nothing is expected of me outside of these hours - no meetings, no report cards, nothing - 5 hours a day and finished. Overtime rate is 20,000w ph for a standard class and 25,000w ph for an essay class. All other contract standards given, apartment 5 mins walk from school.
I'd like some advice on the following before talking to my boss next month about staying on:
- I want a raise to 2m - should I ask for 2.2m and then settle at 2m? I know most hagwon jobs are advertising 2.2-2.4+, but I do work less hours. But, on the otherhand, I have put in extra work also, just in putting together resources to support the books and finding/developing extra activities, all done off my own back. I'm also setting up a penpal scheme, so surely he has to agree that he's getting more for his money and that a raise is deserved.
- What's the deal with airfare and 6 month contracts? As I want to go home for a month between contracts (unpaid, February, I'd offer to find a replacement for the month), can I legitimately ask the school to pay for my February return airfare, and then pay my original return airfare at the end of the additional 6 months also?
- Are there any legalities I should be aware of with a 6-month contract and an E2 visa? Would I have to sign a 12 month one, with the mutual understanding that I'd leave after 6 months (and have something written in about paying return airfare at that point)?
- and what's the deal with severance pay? Can I legitimately ask for 50% severance at the end of the 6 months? Or would this have to carry over from this year's contract, so I'd claim all 18months in one (possibly complicated by the fact that I'd have a month unpaid between contracts)?
I'm just trying to get my facts straight before talking to my director next month, so if I've forgotten anything glaringly obvious, let me know! Any advice appreciated. |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Renewing for a further 6 months... |
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| annabella wrote: |
| - What's the deal with airfare and 6 month contracts? As I want to go home for a month between contracts (unpaid, February, I'd offer to find a replacement for the month), can I legitimately ask the school to pay for my February return airfare, and then pay my original return airfare at the end of the additional 6 months also? |
I would say it would be fair to ask your boss to pay for your ticket home now, and your return to Korea, but not your second return home.
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| - Are there any legalities I should be aware of with a 6-month contract and an E2 visa? Would I have to sign a 12 month one, with the mutual understanding that I'd leave after 6 months (and have something written in about paying return airfare at that point)? |
When you are extending you aren't held down to a one year contract. However, this might change as you plan to go home in between so you'd probably be coming in on a new visa. Not sure here.
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| - and what's the deal with severance pay? Can I legitimately ask for 50% severance at the end of the 6 months? Or would this have to carry over from this year's contract, so I'd claim all 18months in one (possibly complicated by the fact that I'd have a month unpaid between contracts)? |
Yes, you should legally be able to get 50% of your severance since you have already put in your year (from what I have been told) |
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annabella
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Asking to pay for my return to the UK from Seoul sounds fair enough to me - a combination of my return airfare, which he'll have to pay for anyway, and my second outward fare to start a new contract.
- r.e the visa, would I just renew my current E2, on the basis of starting my new contract immediately, but with February written in as unpaid holiday?
- r.e severance, I have heard elsewhere that I could claim for the second 6 months (50%), but that it would have to paid as a lump sum together with the original 12 month entitlement. Is this true, or can I claim them separately?
Has anyone negotiated a 6 month extension, with or without time off in between? What can I legitimately ask for? Thanks. |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:20 am Post subject: Re: Renewing for a further 6 months... |
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| annabella wrote: |
| What's the deal with airfare and 6 month contracts? As I want to go home for a month between contracts (unpaid, February, I'd offer to find a replacement for the month), can I legitimately ask the school to pay for my February return airfare, and then pay my original return airfare at the end of the additional 6 months also? |
You are entitled to return airfare at the end of your first year according to your contract. Generally, one way airfare is provided for 6 months. So if you are returning for 6 months, he should pay for bringing you back in. In effect, it could be a return flight out of , and back to Korea.
However, by the sounds of your first year salary, your boss is cheap and might not go for it. Airfare matters are not provided for under labor law, they are just part of standard remuneration packages.
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| Are there any legalities I should be aware of with a 6-month contract and an E2 visa? Would I have to sign a 12 month one, with the mutual understanding that I'd leave after 6 months (and have something written in about paying return airfare at that point)? |
Just have your VISA extended for 6 months at immigration. You will have to go with your employer to sign a form. They will put an extention date on the back. Sign a new contract stipulating your work term, pay increase and one way airfare. No severance is provided for under the law, for 6 months, even if it is continuous.
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| and what's the deal with severance pay? Can I legitimately ask for 50% severance at the end of the 6 months? |
You can't claim severance for 6months, even if you stay continouously. Severance is guaranteed by law only for each FULL year of service. However, if you can negotiate into 18 months worth, good on ya. |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: Re: Renewing for a further 6 months... |
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| the eye wrote: |
| You can't claim severance for 6months, even if you stay continouously. Severance is guaranteed by law only for each FULL year of service. However, if you can negotiate into 18 months worth, good on ya. |
I have heard the oposite. Do you have a source for your info? (I'm not saying you're wrong, as my sources are less than reputable, just wondering how your hold up  ) |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Renewing for a further 6 months... |
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| Novernae wrote: |
| the eye wrote: |
| You can't claim severance for 6months, even if you stay continouously. Severance is guaranteed by law only for each FULL year of service. However, if you can negotiate into 18 months worth, good on ya. |
I have heard the oposite. Do you have a source for your info? (I'm not saying you're wrong, as my sources are less than reputable, just wondering how your hold up ) |
www.molab.go.kr
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| If a worker has worked for more than one year in a workplace with 5 workers or more, the worker shall be given severance pay in the amount of at least 30-day average wages for each year of service. Severance pay, in principle, should be paid after retirement. However, should a worker request, he or she may receive, in advance, severance pay corresponding to their years of service to date. An employer may take out retirement insurance to ensure that his/her workers can draw pensions form the insurance after their retirement. |
Also, severance is calculated by averaging out the FINAL three months salary payments for that year. It's not an average of the full year's salary payments.
SO, if you get a raise for your 9th-12th month, your severance will reflect the full amount of that raise. |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks. A lot of employers must not know this then. Either that or they just feel it's a fair request of their employees. |
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annabella
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone else negotiated a 6 month contract? What deal did you get airfare/payrise wise? |
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