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Catalina



Joined: 11 May 2003
Location: Bella Italia

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:55 pm    Post subject: Help me read the writing on the wall Reply with quote

Hello folks,

Today, on my desk, was a letter from my crazy wajagnim telling me that 30 classroom hours means 30 hours (1 hour = 60 minutes), and that if I wanted to fight about it should go to the court and pay 50% of the lawsuit costs. If I lost then I have to pay all of the costs.

This is regarding the overtime for the summer intensive program we are running right now. When I asked for this overtime (about 350 000W) I was told that it was too expensive. But now they can fight a lawsuit over it Evil or Very Mad

My co-worked just refused to sign a contract that specifically stated that 1 hour = 60 minutes. Apparently the wajagnim thought that the current contract (which is my contract) is unclear and needs to be clarified.

Now, this is the third battle with this hagwon.

The first fight was being duped into teaching kindy. I was told verbally that I would be teaching 2 pm - 8 pm elementary and middle school. I get here and I am teaching a split shift kindy/elementary school. Terrible.

The second battle was a request for a release letter after 4 months here (I was offered a uni position). They refused the release letter and I had to decline the uni post. Mad During this time the wajagnim cut off the internet, cut off our phonecards, yelled and screamed at us. This lasted about 1 week.

Now this, battle number three - a threatened lawsuit over getting them to enforce the contract. Twisted Evil

I really have just about had it here. I realize that without a release letter I cannot work in Korea until the old work visa expires. That's fine - China here I come!

I am one week shy of my 6 month mark in my contract and will wait until that day passes before I do anything. I have also emailed efl-law to ask for my options here.

And now, what do you think? Is it always like this? Is my director crazy? What coping strategies can you suggest?

Thanks,

Catalina
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:08 pm    Post subject: You need to Reply with quote

You need to contact the Labor Board. I'm sure EFL Law will suggest it. They are good helpers in such disputes.

Tell your boss you are contacting the Korean Labor Board, and then turn a deaf ear to his threats. You need to get the Labor Board involved in this ASAP. Their job is to work out pay problems like this. I hear they are quite good, and helpful to foriegners. I was also told that the reason they were created was because too many foreigners were getting abused by Hagwons, and it was making Korean business look bad internationally.

Does someone have that Labor Board number?
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me read the writing on the wall Reply with quote

Catalina wrote:
Today, on my desk, was a letter from my crazy wajagnim telling me that 30 classroom hours means 30 hours (1 hour = 60 minutes)


She is correct. While some schools offer breaks to be included with the teaching hours, it is not required. Much like some business back in the western world included paid breaks while some do not.

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The first fight was being duped into teaching kindy. I was told verbally that I would be teaching 2 pm - 8 pm elementary and middle school. I get here and I am teaching a split shift kindy/elementary school. Terrible.


This should have been resolved when you got here and learned about it. Did the school say that, or was it a generic ad from a recruiter? Who told you what? Was it the school who lied or the recruiter, or maybe it was the recruiter who made a mistake.

You're labelling the school as lying, but is that really what happened? If so, why didn't you resolve it at the time? Hardly a battle at all. You walk to Immigration and say "Excuse me, I was hired for job X and they want me to do job Y because they can't get anyone for job Y so they advertised for job X." You could have had your letter of release without even having to work at the school.

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The second battle was a request for a release letter after 4 months here (I was offered a uni position). They refused the release letter and I had to decline the uni post. Mad During this time the wajagnim cut off the internet, cut off our phonecards, yelled and screamed at us. This lasted about 1 week.


While uncool with the whole phonecard/Internet/yelling thing, she was reacting to a teacher she spent a lot of money on to fly in who promised to work for a year in exchange is out looking for another job, thus not staying true to his word. While you provoked her, it was still uncool.
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the others. You should contact EFL Law, and/or the Labor Board, tell them your situation, and have them inform him of the law.
If worse comes to worse and he fires you, then he has to inform immigration, and give you a letter of release; he can an a%%hole about it, but in order to release you from the contract he has to write, sign and stamp a letter doing so.
By not giving you the letter he has not released you which means that as long as you show up he has to pay you, and he can not throw you out of the apartment.
Do not tell him all this, have somone from EFL Law, or the Labor Board do it. This way he knows you mean business, and he'll know that he has to watch his step legally.
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Harvard Material



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:21 pm    Post subject: Leaving? Reply with quote

efl-law.com has a proto-type release letter. It is suitable enough for your needs. Print it out, fill in what you need to, and take it to wanjangnim. If he/she refuses to sign it you put the time and date that they refused to sign it. Take it to Immigration (and the Labor office if you can), and explain that you are quitting and why. They can release you from your contract.

Problem gone.
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the following thread to find out where your nearest Labor Office is
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=6017

Contact EFL-Law through their website or send an email to [email protected]

If you're planning to go to China and don't particularly need that letter of release, I suggest you wait until you hit your six month mark and then hand in your letter of resignation to the school and submit one to immigration as well in case they challenge you about dates in the future.

I really feel for you and remember your previous posts. Hope it all works out for the best!
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Catalina



Joined: 11 May 2003
Location: Bella Italia

PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your replies

I have emailed EFL Law with the details and have a contact number for the Labour Board in my city - a friend has had dealings with a person there who speaks English.

I think I need to add a bit more info to my post.....

For you Gord...

After 6 months into the contract it seems UNUSUAL for the wajagnim to change the practice. HE did this after the other foreign teacher refused to re-sign her contract that was the same as my contract, except that it EXPLICITY stated that 1 hour = 60 minutes. So, if it is so clear that 1 hour = 60 minutes why does he need to change the contract. Shocked

The duped about kindy stuff was a learning process. I balked IMMEDIATELY and was promised a teaching assistant, which, after two weeks of waiting and empty promises never materialized. I was then promised the assistance of the assistant director "whenever I needed it", but after another two weeks and her never being around I realized that that would never happen. Then I was promised text books - again, time passed and nothing...by then it was too far into my contract to
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"walk to Immigration and say "Excuse me, I was hired for job X and they want me to do job Y because they can't get anyone for job Y so they advertised for job X." "


And, your uncool comments are, well rather UNCOOL. There was no recruiter involved so no money was spent there and - when I was offered the job at the university I pointed out that I would be repaying airfare because that is what my contract explicity states. When she lied to me about the job and I looked to resolve my situation because all other negotiations had failed - that's what you call provocation!?

So yes - my hindsite, and perhaps yours, does give us 20/20 vision. But, we all get to go through our learning curve. I hope you are kinder to your students during their learning process than you were to me in your post.

Harvard Material

Glad to hear from you - I like your well reasoned, thoughtful, and helpful responses to other posters here. I did present the EFL law prototype letter and a Korean translation to the wajagnim during the battle for a uni position. He refused to sign it. I did communicate to EFL law about it but since my grounds for leaving were not egregious violations of the contract (i.e. not being paid), and I was only four months into the contract (I guess we become visible to the Labour Board after the 6 month mark) I decided not to push it. And frankly, my co-workers (Korean and foreign) were taking such a brow beating from the wajagnim that I just stopped the process. Maybe a rationalization but I like my co-workers and it was too much to watch. But now, two of them are leaving and two more are giving their notice so I feel better pushing the envelope - so to speak.

Waterbaby

Thanks - Smile I forgot to add in my original post that I really like the teaching (including the kindy kids) and Korea is a fine place to visit and work for a while. There are alot of positive things - even though my negative stuff gets aired here. For the record I have made postive posts! I am just not used to this kind of crazy-making in the workplace. Thank your for your support.


So folks, I am going to take this issue to the Labour Board and see what they have to say. And, I will be ignoring the petty tyrant's (a.k.a.wajagnim) threats. Since I am about 1 foot taller than him and taking my tawkwondo lessons I am feeling fine. I will keep you posted on what happens.

Ciao,

Catalina
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