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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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Don't forget Bonar Law and John A. McDonald.
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Yeah, I was worried that if I used a British-born Canadian PM from that era, we'd get bogged down in some discussion about Canada allegedly being part of the UK at that time. I know that's BS, but I didn't feel like having to go through the whole history of it with someone. ("But how can you be an independent country if your constitution was in London blah blah blah?")
re: Bonar Law, I couldn't recall the name of the PM born in Canada. Thanks. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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I'm SO glad we're dealing with whether or not the Bush administration has acted within or without the law...
Criminy. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| your maturity level is stunning. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I'm sure the view from the sandbox is a bit ovewhelming.
Using sarcasm to point out a thread has gone off-topic is really only something children would do. And of course, claiming someone is being childish with a childish statement is, what was that word...? Hy... hippo... hippie.. hyoce.... hypotenu.... damn... all those greek words confuse me so... |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| BLT Lawyer wrote: |
| ...what was that word...? Hy... hippo... hippie.. hyoce.... hypotenu.... damn... all those greek words confuse me so... |
Not surprising, BLT. Not surprising at all for a guy who uses the "[sic]" device without even knowing how, when, and why it is used...
And why did you use it here, where you are not even quoting anyone's document or written statement.? And, as if that were not enough, there are no apparent (as far as I can see) spelling errors? And, moreoever, if you were "transcribing" something you were hearing, on television or the radio or whatever else it may have been, how did you pick up the mispelled words? Can people even spell words incorrectly when they talk (Dan Quayle notwithstanding)...?
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| That was a special case. I felt that if we could prevent Bush from winning we could avoid the erosion of the our rights and our international standing that has occurred as a result of his winning. [sic] |
So I must say, BLT, your lawyering skills are not as sharp as they ought to be, given your profession and your cantankerous nature. But, as a good litigator, you do bring up "the forum rules" for us to consider. And as you know, I am not as well versed in the law as you are. But it would seem to me rational, if not necessarily a matter of strict legal propriety, that a post should first be intelligible if one is to hold others accountable for strictly responding to it on its own merits.
Your OP here seems to fail that test miserably.
So I reiterate my earlier objection, call for clarification, and implied proposal for summary dismissal from the jury (if any care to respond): WTFAYTA in the OP? |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| BLT Lawyer wrote: |
| ...what was that word...? Hy... hippo... hippie.. hyoce.... hypotenu.... damn... all those greek words confuse me so... |
Not surprising, BLT. Not surprising at all for a guy who uses the "[sic]" device without even knowing how, when, and why it is used...
And why did you use it here, where you are not even quoting anyone's document or written statement.? And, as if that were not enough, there are no apparent (as far as I can see) spelling errors? And, moreoever, if you were "transcribing" something you were hearing, on television or the radio or whatever else it may have been, how did you pick up the mispelled words? Can people even spell words incorrectly when they talk (Dan Quayle notwithstanding)...?
| BLT Lawyer wrote: |
| That was a special case. I felt that if we could prevent Bush from winning we could avoid the erosion of the our rights and our international standing that has occurred as a result of his winning. [sic] |
So I must say, BLT, your lawyering skills are not as sharp as they ought to be, given your profession and your cantankerous nature. But, as a good litigator, you do bring up "the forum rules" for us to consider. And as you know, I am not as well versed in the law as you are. But it would seem to me rational, if not necessarily a matter of strict legal propriety, that a post should first be intelligible if one is to hold others accountable for strictly responding to it on its own merits.
Your OP here seems to fail that test miserably.
So I reiterate my earlier objection, call for clarification, and implied proposal for summary dismissal from the jury (if any care to respond): WTFAYTA in the OP? |
By entering threads and/or following my posts with nothing but ad hominems and insults without addressing the issues even tangentially, you have rendered yourself irrelevant. And boring. |
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Yo!Chingo
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul Korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Now, American nationalism is based on the notion that its social structure is superior to others and that American blood is superior (can you be president if you weren't born in the US?). |
I don't think the "born on the soil" rule for presidents is related to blood nationalism, or else they would have regulated it according to ancestry, not place of birth. I seem to remember reading that the rule had something to do with fears that foreign powers could take over the American political system by swamping it with unassimilated immigrants. But I can't recall for sure.
In any event, I agree that the rule makes no sense whatsoever at this point in history. |
Hell if that was the reason then it has failed miserably in the last 20 years!!! |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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If anyone reminds me of Hitler these days it isn't Bush, and it wasn't Saddam either, it's Ahmadinejad. Short, dishonest, disingenuous, prone to talking in grandiose abstractions, aggressive and controversial, and capable of being charming and charismatic.
He's also in charge of a real nation that we have to take seriously, unlike Iraq; although it still doesn't have the potential force of a powerhouse like Germany and this isn't 1941 so they've got no more chance against the US military than anyone else in the world.
But Ahmadinejad just looks the part of the little demagogue dictator. And Bush doesn't. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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I think they both have a bit of the "stupidly manipulative" in them.....
Wide ideological agendas and basic extreme and simple views of life/history.
I would suggest Ahmandinejad is more apt to dialogue --but that may only be because his Air Force 1 isn't quite so grand. Both idiots and we must shake our heads how nations raise up these men, heil, golly gee or otherwise...
DD |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| BLT Lawyer wrote: |
| By entering threads and/or following my posts with nothing but ad hominems and insults without addressing the issues even tangentially, you have rendered yourself irrelevant. And boring. |
Let's clarify the issue you raise, shall we?
The issue is this: Is W. Bush "a Hilter"?
I can answer that right now, and I am fairly certain that it will be an answer that few here (except for you) will disagree with.
No, W. Bush is not a National-Socialist. He is a Republican. Moreover, his name is "George W. Bush" and not " | | |
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