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Ever wish you were another nationality?
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
SPINOZA wrote:

Your nationality is where ever you're born whether you like it or not.


No, this is a bit silly. I was born in London, England and my family history is largely English and Scotland. I'm entitled to a British passport (will have one soon!) but this doesn't make me British.

I've got a Canadian accent, a distinctively Canadian attitude toward gender roles and race relations, and I'm certainly much more direct and emotionally open than a typical Brit. Like it or not, I'm Canadian.

I'd love to be more Scottish. The accent is sweet, the reputation is sturdy and there'd likely be more red-haired boys about (I love 'em, Lord help me.)


But you're already French...wait for it....wait for it....

Ba-da-BING!

Merci, merci. I weel be heer awl week.
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kermo



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
kermo wrote:
SPINOZA wrote:

Your nationality is where ever you're born whether you like it or not.


No, this is a bit silly. I was born in London, England and my family history is largely English and Scotland. I'm entitled to a British passport (will have one soon!) but this doesn't make me British.

I've got a Canadian accent, a distinctively Canadian attitude toward gender roles and race relations, and I'm certainly much more direct and emotionally open than a typical Brit. Like it or not, I'm Canadian.

I'd love to be more Scottish. The accent is sweet, the reputation is sturdy and there'd likely be more red-haired boys about (I love 'em, Lord help me.)


But you're already French...wait for it....wait for it....

Ba-da-BING!

Merci, merci. I weel be heer awl week.


Er... I don't get it. Confused
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
Er... I don't get it. Confused

Surely not a frog joke? Couldn't be.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:
kermo wrote:
Er... I don't get it. Confused

Surely not a frog joke? Couldn't be.


Merde!
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Dan The Chainsawman



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*beep* no I wouldn't want to be any other nationality in the world. That certainly won't stop me from scoring both a Canadian and British passport for when I go teach in Poland, if I ever get around to that.
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matthews_world



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
I'm from the south.


From the south of where? South Queensland? Very Happy

I love how we Americans do this. The rest of the world doesn't care less about it.


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flakfizer



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad I come from the country I come from. I'm even glad I come from the region I come from.
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hairy sue



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: Ever wish you were another nationality? Reply with quote

Alias wrote:
Maybe its culture or politics in your home country but have you ever felt that you would like to be another nationality?


How could anyone feel like they wish they were born into a different nationality? That's not human.
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Canadian Club



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I carry a Canadian and a Finnish passport. I love both countries.

Who could want anything else?
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flotsam



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
billybrobby wrote:
I'm from the south.


From the south of where? South Queensland? Very Happy

I love how we Americans do this. The rest of the world doesn't care less about it.


Riiiiiiiight. Nobody else does this. Never heard a Brit say he's from "the North". Fact.

This is another case of "Everybody knows American geography better than they know which hemisphere my country is in" envy. Or just the good ole "Look at my backpack flag!" inferiority complex.

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ticktock



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nah, i think i got the nationality thing sorted, i've decided I'm Korean on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays and then British (well English to be precise) on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. On Sundays I give it a rest.
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Hosub



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I carry a Republic of Korea passport and I wish to have no other. I'd rather be an East Asian however, than just Korean. China, Japan, and Korea interests me as well.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
SPINOZA wrote:

Your nationality is where ever you're born whether you like it or not.


No, this is a bit silly. I was born in London, England and my family history is largely English and Scotland. I'm entitled to a British passport (will have one soon!) but this doesn't make me British.

I've got a Canadian accent, a distinctively Canadian attitude toward gender roles and race relations, and I'm certainly much more direct and emotionally open than a typical Brit. Like it or not, I'm Canadian.

I'd love to be more Scottish. The accent is sweet, the reputation is sturdy and there'd likely be more red-haired boys about (I love 'em, Lord help me.)


You're right. My post was badly written and my real feelings about nationality are hinted at in my third paragraph, not the second:

"I've got an Irish and Spanish heritage but my sole loyalty is to the country I was 1. born, 2. brought up and 3. educated in."

Nationality is pretty complicated. I think a French guy who's 40 yet moved to England when he was 13 is still a Frenchman.

But - and I've met many people like this - folks with (country-x) parents yet were born, brought up, educated in, speak the national language of country-y (and rarely if ever step foot on country-x) are Country-Y-ish. They just ARE. Genetic heritages mean bugger all in my opinion and people who limp around on the crutches of a self-assigned socio-racial identity, setting themselves apart and aloof from their surroundings, are to be pitied. Nationality just cannot be something that's chosen. It has to be objective and family heritages make it too complicated. Buck has to stop at where you, ultimately, commonsensically, are from.

My view has very positive consequences for race relations, because whether you're a black guy, a brown woman or a chap from Pluto, you're bloody British whether you say so or not if you're born there, lived there all your life and never been 'home'.
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ChimpumCallao



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My view has very positive consequences for race relations, because whether you're a black guy, a brown woman or a chap from Pluto, you're bloody British whether you say so or not if you're born there, lived there all your life and never been 'home'.


and that's why immigration (for the most part) works in the united states and is an abysmal failure in europe.
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