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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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Oops... maybe it was SDA then. Anyway, it was one of the proto-christian acronym groups. They have a really nice campus in Seoul. Bequeath to them - suspiciously enough - during the Japanese occupation early last century.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-christian, quite the opposite in fact. I believe truly in what Jesus stated in the bible ... give to Rome what is Rome's, give to God what is God's ...
Meaning ... I can come and pray at your church, I can VOLUNTEER my time to good causes. But stay away from my pay-check suckers (and my free-time). It doesn't count as God's work if your boss says you HAVE to do it. Rather, that counts as your JOB. If you dig it, then more power to you - and I for one - hope that you are eternally rewarded in the hereafter. But people should know what they are getting themselves into IMO.
PS: yeah, about the tax thing. It was only about 50,000 won for some reason. I told them that I don't mind paying it, if they can give me a tax number. They said they couldn't, so basically I told them to send it to me in and mail and I'll pay the tax once I get the number (which btw I could to reclaim it). They didn't send and so I didn't pay... |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| you know, that may be true, but my wife is at a Christian hagwon, and they have been NOTHING but Christian to us. |
So they colonized you, huh?  |
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elynnor
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:28 am Post subject: |
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jinglejangle
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thats a WICKED shot..whose is it? |
Rather famous actually.
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Inchon Invasion, September 1950
First Lieutenant Baldomero Lopez, USMC, leads the 3rd Platoon, Company A, 1st Battalion, 5th Marines over the seawall on the northern side of Red Beach, as the second assault wave lands, 15 September 1950. Wooden scaling ladders are in use to facilitate disembarkation from the LCVP that brought these men to the shore.
Lt. Lopez was killed in action within a few minutes, while assaulting a North Korean bunker.
Note M-1 Carbine carried by Lt. Lopez, M-1 Rifles of other Marines and details of the Marines' field gear.
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jinglejangle
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say I see nothing wrong with someone forming a special interest forum by religion. I'm not sure it's the best thing, and I'm sure that you won't find me there, but I don't see the problem.
As for Christian education, when it's done well, I think it is an excellent idea for Christian families. Unfortunately, I have not really seen it done well at the grade school level yet, personally.
I have very little experience to speak of in the Korean Christian school arena, but I'm under the impression that for the most part they are even worse in some regards than here in the states. Ah.. when I say Kor Christian School I'm really refering to foreign schools. I have yet to meet someone from an indiginous Korean Chirstian school. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| clandestine782 wrote: |
| Novernae wrote: |
| Smee wrote: |
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| you know, that may be true, but my wife is at a Christian hagwon, and they have been NOTHING but Christian to us. |
So they colonized you, huh? |
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You sound like an idiot. (And I am a table pounding atheist. It just pisses me off to the fullest when I see semi-literate white people in such a rush to be anti-establishment that they forget to look up the facts.) They could just have easily been Muslim. Need I remind you that the Arabs have (obviously) been all through Indonesia and Malaysia infecting the world with their religion? Need I remind you that they have infected lots of Africans. Nigerians this very day seem to split on religious issues. |
Your opinion is very important to me. Thanks for sharing. |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Need I remind you that the Arabs have (obviously) been all through Indonesia and Malaysia infecting the world with their religion?
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... nice !!!!
Congrats dude, you're a perfect example of the type of Christians we've been warning people about on this thread. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| jinglejangle wrote: |
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Thats a WICKED shot..whose is it? |
Rather famous actually.
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Inchon Invasion, September 1950
First Lieutenant Baldomero Lopez, USMC, leads the 3rd Platoon, Company A, 1st Battalion, 5th Marines over the seawall on the northern side of Red Beach, as the second assault wave lands, 15 September 1950. Wooden scaling ladders are in use to facilitate disembarkation from the LCVP that brought these men to the shore.
Lt. Lopez was killed in action within a few minutes, while assaulting a North Korean bunker.
Note M-1 Carbine carried by Lt. Lopez, M-1 Rifles of other Marines and details of the Marines' field gear.
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http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h96000/h96876c.htm |
You dick! I was holding that from him as leverage!! Edit! Edit! |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: |
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I have to say I see nothing wrong with someone forming a special interest forum by religion. I'm not sure it's the best thing, and I'm sure that you won't find me there, but I don't see the problem.
As for Christian education, when it's done well, I think it is an excellent idea for Christian families. Unfortunately, I have not really seen it done well at the grade school level yet, personally.
I have very little experience to speak of in the Korean Christian school arena, but I'm under the impression that for the most part they are even worse in some regards than here in the states. Ah.. when I say Kor Christian School I'm really refering to foreign schools. I have yet to meet someone from an indiginous Korean Chirstian school. |
My issues aren't with special interest forums by religion, or christian education (I have other issues with those, but we won't go into those), but rather with a special interest forum divided along the lines of two unrelated themes. Christianity should NOT come into play in ESL/EFL; Unless specific to a Christian school education, ESL/EFL should be secular. I can think of no issues where a person might get better answers to their ESL/EFL queries from a Christian over any other ESL/EFL teacher. Why form such a group then? |
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jinglejangle
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Smee wrote: |
| clandestine782 wrote: |
| Novernae wrote: |
| Smee wrote: |
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| you know, that may be true, but my wife is at a Christian hagwon, and they have been NOTHING but Christian to us. |
So they colonized you, huh? |
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You sound like an idiot. (And I am a table pounding atheist. It just pisses me off to the fullest when I see semi-literate white people in such a rush to be anti-establishment that they forget to look up the facts.) They could just have easily been Muslim. Need I remind you that the Arabs have (obviously) been all through Indonesia and Malaysia infecting the world with their religion? Need I remind you that they have infected lots of Africans. Nigerians this very day seem to split on religious issues. |
Your opinion is very important to me. Thanks for sharing. |
 Was it the lol faces? |
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jinglejangle
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| flotsam wrote: |
| jinglejangle wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| flotsam wrote: |
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Thats a WICKED shot..whose is it? |
Rather famous actually.
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Inchon Invasion, September 1950
First Lieutenant Baldomero Lopez, USMC, leads the 3rd Platoon, Company A, 1st Battalion, 5th Marines over the seawall on the northern side of Red Beach, as the second assault wave lands, 15 September 1950. Wooden scaling ladders are in use to facilitate disembarkation from the LCVP that brought these men to the shore.
Lt. Lopez was killed in action within a few minutes, while assaulting a North Korean bunker.
Note M-1 Carbine carried by Lt. Lopez, M-1 Rifles of other Marines and details of the Marines' field gear.
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http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h96000/h96876c.htm |
You *beep*! I was holding that from him as leverage!! Edit! Edit! |
Sorry, I was comsumed by my zeal to educate.
ah heck, who am I kidding. I just wanted to look smart.
I'd better post something else quick before someone thinks I am. |
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jinglejangle
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Novernae wrote: |
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I have to say I see nothing wrong with someone forming a special interest forum by religion. I'm not sure it's the best thing, and I'm sure that you won't find me there, but I don't see the problem.
As for Christian education, when it's done well, I think it is an excellent idea for Christian families. Unfortunately, I have not really seen it done well at the grade school level yet, personally.
I have very little experience to speak of in the Korean Christian school arena, but I'm under the impression that for the most part they are even worse in some regards than here in the states. Ah.. when I say Kor Christian School I'm really refering to foreign schools. I have yet to meet someone from an indiginous Korean Chirstian school. |
My issues aren't with special interest forums by religion, or christian education (I have other issues with those, but we won't go into those), but rather with a special interest forum divided along the lines of two unrelated themes. Christianity should NOT come into play in ESL/EFL; Unless specific to a Christian school education, ESL/EFL should be secular. I can think of no issues where a person might get better answers to their ESL/EFL queries from a Christian over any other ESL/EFL teacher. Why form such a group then? |
As far as ESL/EFl I can't see much purpose, but for Christian teaching in general I can. It doesn't take to many months of scouring the news to realize that Judeo-Christian types and Atheist/agnostic/buddhist types with somewhat less rigid believe structures/moral codes tend to have significant differences about a lot of things in the education realm. As far as actual teaching methodology I can't say that I see where one group would really be much different than the other. I am going to bow out of further comment on this though by saying that as a non ESL/EFL teacher I really know very little about it, and will limit myself from going deeper. First of all, I don't want to look like a fool when it becomes obvious that I have no idea what I'm talking about, and second I don't want to mislead anyone.
All that said, I will be interested to hear your response. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| I had a boss who was nothing but Christian to me. He told me liars will burn in hell, and then he cheated me out of my final month's salary (plus bonus) and an earlier loan of about 1 million. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:38 am Post subject: Re: Christian ESL |
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A place for Christians in ESL to connect.
Post jobs, resources, and ministries from a Christian perspective at www.ChristianESL.com |
If this is a place for people with similar spiritual beliefs to socialize, provide emotional support, give professional advice, etc., then great. Go for it.
I wouldn't like it if it were a place for evangelicals to exchange methods on how to proselytize in an ESL classroom. |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| jinglejangle wrote: |
| Novernae wrote: |
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I have to say I see nothing wrong with someone forming a special interest forum by religion. I'm not sure it's the best thing, and I'm sure that you won't find me there, but I don't see the problem.
As for Christian education, when it's done well, I think it is an excellent idea for Christian families. Unfortunately, I have not really seen it done well at the grade school level yet, personally.
I have very little experience to speak of in the Korean Christian school arena, but I'm under the impression that for the most part they are even worse in some regards than here in the states. Ah.. when I say Kor Christian School I'm really refering to foreign schools. I have yet to meet someone from an indiginous Korean Chirstian school. |
My issues aren't with special interest forums by religion, or christian education (I have other issues with those, but we won't go into those), but rather with a special interest forum divided along the lines of two unrelated themes. Christianity should NOT come into play in ESL/EFL; Unless specific to a Christian school education, ESL/EFL should be secular. I can think of no issues where a person might get better answers to their ESL/EFL queries from a Christian over any other ESL/EFL teacher. Why form such a group then? |
As far as ESL/EFl I can't see much purpose, but for Christian teaching in general I can. It doesn't take to many months of scouring the news to realize that Judeo-Christian types and Atheist/agnostic/buddhist types with somewhat less rigid believe structures/moral codes tend to have significant differences about a lot of things in the education realm. As far as actual teaching methodology I can't say that I see where one group would really be much different than the other. I am going to bow out of further comment on this though by saying that as a non ESL/EFL teacher I really know very little about it, and will limit myself from going deeper. First of all, I don't want to look like a fool when it becomes obvious that I have no idea what I'm talking about, and second I don't want to mislead anyone.
All that said, I will be interested to hear your response. |
I think it's perfectly okay to form a group for Christian teachers, for finding Christian jobs, etc. but this should be a group for 'Christian school' teachers, not for Christian 'school teachers.' My argument is purely semantic and the difference is subtle, but its there, and in my view it makes a difference. In one, I see people proselytizing to people who they should not be proselytising to. In the other, I see them learning how to proselytize to an accepting group of people who are paying for the service of being proselytised to. Anyway, thanks for engaging in the discussion. 'Twas a fully enjoyable experience!
I think this probably sets a record for being the most civil religion-related discussion on dave's... |
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