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Immigration ate my Degree
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two words: Terrorist Threat.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DB that sucks.

For the doubters, I'm going to support him. I also went to the University of Edinburgh. Before I came to Korea I couldn't find my diploma. I was convinced I had lost it. So I tried to get another one. Sure enough, as the OP said, they won't give one. The best you can get is a letter confirming you graduated.. no replacement diplomas from that tight-ass ancient university.

Anyway I found it so I was OK.

Sucks to be you bad haircut boy. =(
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My notarized diploma copy does not have the embossed notary mark, only a stamped bit. Could be copied. A Photoshopped diploma should be useless, too.

Luck of the draw -- if you can't get a "copy" of your diploma returned to you, you can't get it returned. But I would keep trying by asking different employees.
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dodgybarnet



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
For the doubters, I'm going to support him. I also went to the University of Edinburgh. ... no replacement diplomas from that tight-ass ancient university.


Yeah. To the doubters:


Anyhow, I previously took scans of all my documents, a very cunning plan for someone who is always travelling. Not much good when Immi keeps my hard-copies though Crying or Very sad


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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are British/Irish universities such uptight jerks?

I've heard nothing but whining from Brits and Irish about not being able to get transcripts, diplomas or any kind of support after graduation.

I am constantly baffled by this, and kinda feel sorry for them.

Are these academics living in the real world or is the Ivory Tower really that high?
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you merely photoshopped your degree...what kind of paper did you do it on?

I'd have thought that's usually a dead giveaway.Mine are done on "goatskin" paper and the degrees have watermarks.

How the thing feels in your hand ought to say quite a lot.As should things like a University seal to show that its been physically stamped.
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dodgybarnet



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rothkowitz wrote:
If you merely photoshopped your degree...what kind of paper did you do it on?

I'd have thought that's usually a dead giveaway.Mine are done on "goatskin" paper and the degrees have watermarks.

How the thing feels in your hand ought to say quite a lot.As should things like a University seal to show that its been physically stamped.


It's supposed to be a copy - that's why it's all notarized etc. It's not supposed to look "real". My Uni simply wont provide any copy of the degree at all (photocopies or anything), so I had to resort to other measures.
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dogshed



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Seems you're in a tough spot. Immigration always keeps "copies" of diplomas used for visa applications. They look at the "original" diplomas and hand them back. If you had known, you could have made several of your "copies" at the same time. Next time, make several copies.


You had your homemade "original" certified as a copy? Am I getting that right? I sent my original and zerox copies to the consulate in chicago and they stamped the copies while returning my original in perfect condition.

I think you should have zeroxed your "original" and then had them stamp the copies. Is the UK just really messed up?

-Jeff
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dodgybarnet



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogshed - You had your homemade "original" certified as a copy? Am I getting that right?

Correctomondo

dogshed - I think you should have zeroxed your "original" and then had them stamp the copies.

Dude... I. Do. Not. Have. The. Original.

There. Is. No. Way. To. Get. A. New. One.

That's why I had to make one - it's impossible to get any form of diploma certificate if you lose the original. Therefore if you lose the original, you can't make a copy of anything. You have nothing to photocopy.

[b]dogshed - Is the UK just really messed up?

Personally I'd like to put the blame here on the Korean Immigration. It's them that needs this irrelevant piece of paper. No other job in the... let's see... 7 different countries I've worked in have needed it.

Anyhow, as fun as it is explaining the same situation 47,324 different times Rolling Eyes , can anyone hazzard a guess on how to answer the following question:

Immigration has my property. How can I make them give it back?

Any advice pertaining to this question would be greatly appreciated!


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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you just fake a fresh one each year?
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
British universities will give copies of the original degree.
But only 1 copy at a time. To get one..you have to prove it was damaged or stolen.

To prove it was damaged/soiled, you have to send the damaged orignal back to them.

If you've lost it, then you need a written statement signed and stamped by 2 Justices of the peace confirming that you are of good character and likely did actually lose your original.

Then..they supply you with ..an original copy.


Which uni did you go to? My British uni ONLY gives out one degree cert and if something happens to that then hard cheese. If you do lose it etc they will issue a letter starting that you have graduated and got a certain class of degree, but not another original copy.

ilovebdt
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Immigration has my property. How can I make them give it back?


Christ, you Brits are incorrigible.
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dodgybarnet



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rothkowitz - Why don't you just fake a fresh one each year?

Is this a troll? Because it needs to be notarized - an expensive tedious process (see previous posts)

Pyongshin Sangja - Christ, you Brits are incorrigible.

Is this similar to "uncorrigated"? Wink

Addtionally, ilovebdt is my homeboy.

Anyhow, in a drunked mood last night, I emailed Edinburgh Uni just for kicks and this is the personal email I got back just now (personal info changed):

Dear DodgyBarnet

We are very sorry about your situation. I'm afraid though your certificate which was either given to you at graduation, or posted afterwards, is a one-off document and it is our policy not to produce duplicate certificates. For practical and security reasons we do not keep copies of the blank certificates with the relevant years' Dean/Head of College/Secretary/Principal's signatures so it is impossible to give you a new one.

A certified copy can only be made if you can provide us with a photocopy of the original. Is there any chance your parents may have a copy or the original? If you attended the graduation it may still be in its red tube, or if you were in absentia it may be in a manilla hard-backed envelope.

Please in the meantime show this email to the authorities and explain that our statements signed by University officials are normally accepted in all countries worldwide.

nice woman
The Registry
University of Edinburgh

I draw your attention to the "Please in the meantime show this email to the authorities and explain that our statements signed by University officials are normally accepted in all countries worldwide. bit...

Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Anyone know how to explain this to Immi! Razz

Actually, I've got sidetracked again! D'oh! This is the important bit:

dodgybarnet wrote:

Immigration has my property. How can I make them give it back?


Thanks all.


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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are very funny.

The dang Korean secretary (the first one) punched holes in my first degree certificates. I was shocked and horrified. So I asked my uni to provide me with a second lot, which they did without hesitation.

I went to Notts uni, btw.
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what is screwed up the most?

I can get a new diploma for a 1/2 to a 1/3rdof the price it takes Dodgy to get his cloned diploma certfied as a copy, then stamped by the Korean embassy and fed exed.


I say you go down to Immigration and pull a Trainspotting on them.
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