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itaewonguy
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Deniro's been the producer of most of his recent films hasn't he? It would explain the quality of his recent films. It would also explain why other (better) producers aren't contacting him for roles in films like The Departed.
Also, outside of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones films, has Harrison Ford ever done anything good?
Correction: Blade Runner |
witness!
the mosquito coast!
The Fugitive
Frantic
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Harrison Ford is another bad one. He's been taking all these lame cookie cutter roles, just walking through his career. |
true.. yes he is about the money! he is a business a 20 million dollar enterprise!
he doesnt take risks! I think regarding henry was about the biggest risk he took as an actor.. he does what many so called actors do..
He plays one character in every film, and just has that one character go through different emotions on screen. he is a safe actor!
a businessman!!
he shined in the 80's and early 90's! after the fugitive in 93.. he just went on auto pilot! and took the safe roles for the pay checks!
still he has had some classics..
so I guess someone is gonna say Kevin costner is another one too? |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| cwemory wrote: |
Also, outside of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones films, has Harrison Ford ever done anything good?
Correction: Blade Runner |
Mosquito Coast comes to mind. |
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huck
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Ever since seeing Pacino the "The Devil's Advocate" and "Heat", I can't stand watching him. Whenver I see him now, I just think of a guy who is overacting and yells a lot. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
| cwemory wrote: |
Deniro's been the producer of most of his recent films hasn't he? It would explain the quality of his recent films. It would also explain why other (better) producers aren't contacting him for roles in films like The Departed.
Also, outside of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones films, has Harrison Ford ever done anything good?
Correction: Blade Runner |
witness!
the mosquito coast!
The Fugitive
Frantic
K-19
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Harrison Ford is another bad one. He's been taking all these lame cookie cutter roles, just walking through his career. |
true.. yes he is about the money! he is a business a 20 million dollar enterprise!
he doesnt take risks! I think regarding henry was about the biggest risk he took as an actor.. he does what many so called actors do..
He plays one character in every film, and just has that one character go through different emotions on screen. he is a safe actor!
a businessman!!
he shined in the 80's and early 90's! after the fugitive in 93.. he just went on auto pilot! and took the safe roles for the pay checks!
still he has had some classics..
so I guess someone is gonna say Kevin costner is another one too? |
Nevermind - he is making Indiana Jones 4.... that'll be good. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| huck wrote: |
| Ever since seeing Pacino the "The Devil's Advocate" and "Heat", I can't stand watching him. Whenver I see him now, I just think of a guy who is overacting and yells a lot. |
Maybe there are two actors out there called Al Pacino and you're watching a different one. I've seen every one of his movies more than once, and never seen him over acting. He goes big when it's required, and it's never a bad thing. Devils Advocate was a naturally hammy role, he did what was required, owned the screen, leaped out of the screen onto the people in the front row, no one else could have played that role. In Heat he was superb, you say overacting, but the scene with De Niro in the coffee shop was a master class in saying whole novels worth with the tiniest facial gesture, two of the greatest there has ever been, showing how it's done. You are definitely seeing another guy who happens to also be called Al Pacino. What movies has he done? I'd like to check him out... |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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That scene was awful.They get together in the coffee shop and have a chat... 
Even worse than that was the Pacino and his wife getting deep and meaningful about their marriage problems.
Now that I think about movies from the last half dozen years I just freaking cringe.Eyes Wide Shut are so many abysmal moments.Kidman pretending to be stoned.
Magnolia-christ don't insult me into supposing Cruise can act.
Even more than before,Hollywood is either restricted by or panders to its audience in terms of the people it puts in its films.
Matt Damon.....in a Scorcese film.Ma---at Da-----mon.
Bah!fuggit!had enough. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| rothkowitz wrote: |
That scene was awful.They get together in the coffee shop and have a chat...
Even worse than that was the Pacino and his wife getting deep and meaningful about their marriage problems.
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Obviously quality actors in quality movies is just not for you. Oh well, stick to your Disney movies then... |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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You represent every pretentious aspect of NZ that I despise.
Tool.
Wait,don't tell me."It's lifestyle" |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Once Taxi Driver 2 comes out, all will be forgiven. |
I hope they would change the plot if that ever happen. I would be kind of creepy to see an aging Bobby De Niro playing a character who's trying to rescue a 14 year-old prostitute that he's obesessed about. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| rothkowitz wrote: |
You represent every pretentious aspect of NZ that I despise.
Tool.
Wait,don't tell me."It's lifestyle" |
WTF has New Zealand OR lifestyle got to do with any of this Gilligan? |
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cwemory
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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my apologies, I forgot about Witness and have never seen The Mosquito Coast. Suppose that belongs in the "Classic films you've never seen" thread.
With The Fugitive, I liked Tommy Lee Jones' role rather than actually liking the film. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Pachino was great in Sea of love, Scent of a Woman, ok in Any Given Sunday.
The aforementioned coffee chat scene, I thought, was very revealing. Two guys sitting together pretending to be anything but actors, but two actors talking is all you see. The magic of Hollywood is blown away and the lie shines through. |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:44 am Post subject: |
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That scene can't be explained away as some kind of example of modernism.
Heat has some good moments and really moves along at a great clip.But then it becomes bogged down in pseudo-literary garbage.Collateral has a ridiclous example of it when Cruise's character shoots the jazz club owner when he couldn't answer a question on jazz.WTF??God,what crap.
Perfect examples of 3 hour movies which would have been really so much better(I liked Heat at the time nonetheless)if they'd had some flab trimmed. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| rothkowitz wrote: |
That scene was awful.They get together in the coffee shop and have a chat...
Even worse than that was the Pacino and his wife getting deep and meaningful about their marriage problems.
Now that I think about movies from the last half dozen years I just freaking cringe.Eyes Wide Shut are so many abysmal moments.Kidman pretending to be stoned.
Magnolia-christ don't insult me into supposing Cruise can act.
Even more than before,Hollywood is either restricted by or panders to its audience in terms of the people it puts in its films.
Matt Damon.....in a Scorcese film.Ma---at Da-----mon.
Bah!fuggit!had enough. |
are you trying to say AL PACINO is a bad actor???
becuase if you are , you are standing on a stool all by yourself and I think 99% of hollywood and the world will disagree with you..
he is considered one of the greatest of our generation.. for a reason!!
not to mention he is a great theatre actor too!!
you will have a very hard time trying to find a great character actor with his intensity and charisma! |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| rothkowitz wrote: |
That scene can't be explained away as some kind of example of modernism.
Heat has some good moments and really moves along at a great clip.But then it becomes bogged down in pseudo-literary garbage.Collateral has a ridiclous example of it when Cruise's character shoots the jazz club owner when he couldn't answer a question on jazz.WTF??God,what crap.
Perfect examples of 3 hour movies which would have been really so much better(I liked Heat at the time nonetheless)if they'd had some flab trimmed. |
So you like the action sequences in Heat, but got bored when people started talking and empathising all over the place, developing their characters beyond people shooting at each other?? |
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