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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
Your mileage may vary.
Ours cost around $8000-$10000 AUD. Work included proper installation of the screen and projector, lights, speaker installation, ceiling renovation, screen and cables. |
thats pretty cheap really..
you got any pics of your system? would love to see the set up...
did you guys get a great sound system and top end gear?
what gear did you get? |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
| rocklee wrote: |
Your mileage may vary.
Ours cost around $8000-$10000 AUD. Work included proper installation of the screen and projector, lights, speaker installation, ceiling renovation, screen and cables. |
thats pretty cheap really..
you got any pics of your system? would love to see the set up...
did you guys get a great sound system and top end gear?
what gear did you get? |
I don't really know much about Australia, what people there earn, the cost of living, what they consider a fat whack of dosh. But that price for that HT isn't just "pretty cheap"... it's INSANELY CHEAP.... like.... anywhere on Planet Earth outside of China or D-I-Y Land.
In Korea I've had smaller (though more ornate and glitzy) home theatres installed for... I don't really want to say, but a multiple or two of that price. And installers can charge that because even though labour is cheap, Koreans have the money and they like to spend it. And the ones having an HT built into their home expect to be reamed. They get into the spirit of the thing.
But what makes that HT in the photo different from 95% of installations in Korea is -- that's a house, not an apartment. Koreans have the money, Koreans can get (most of) the materials, and certainly we can get the gear. But almost nobody has that much pyongage they can give up for a dedicated HT. Not without kissing the living room and a bedroom goodbye.
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About that HT.
I think it's a beautiful space, and I like the tiered floor and the ceiling. But from the perspective of a movie-lover, I don't like the viewing distance. When you have seats that far back, especially the backrow seats, you effectively shrink your massive screen down to what at 42-inch flatpanel would look like from a normal viewing distance in any Korean apartment. That is, you have a great theatre atmosphere, but when the lights go off and it's all about the movie, you'd get a better, bigger, more powerful experience in a smaller room with the seats much closer to the screen. But as a space, as a room, and for the "theatre experience", that's a lovely HT, particularly if you have lots of guests. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| Um, that is not the cost of the system or anything, its just setting up one of our rumpus room to become a projector room. We did most of the work ourselves to save costs because spending over $5000 just for that would be insane. |
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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hey guys,
Has anyone considered or have the other alternative...A REAR PROJECTOR. They look really nice from what I've seen at E-mart and the like. I've been pricing them on danawa, and you can get a 56-60 inch for about 2-2.5 Million. It's not a hundred inch, but really who has room for that in Korean apartments?
In a typical 32-34 pyung apartment livingroom, I think this would work pretty sweet....
1. Really big screen.
2. NO fancy setup and installation. (big plus for me)
3. comparatively thin (little thicker than lcd panel) and DLPs aren't floor models these days. You can sit them on your console.
4. Bright and daytime watchable. No extra TV to clutter.
5. Quite cheap compared to same-sized panels. I think a good bargain even compared to projectors considering setup costs and screens and lighting solutions like theater curtains.
6. DVI and HDMI inputs for the PC and components...!!!
On the negative side, they do have a viewing angle, but the new DLPs seem pretty generous. Also, they are heavy...about 100lbs.
Seems like a viable alternative and the best of both worlds, but I'm no expert (I'm using an old 26' curve-tubed LG TV now).
Anyone have any experience with modern rear-projectors? I'd really appreciate some input. We're looking to buy an apart' soon and I want a good HTPC/console gaming/movie viewing solution. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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We've got some new rear projection TVs at our school. They're really nice. As mentioned, they have a bit of a viewing angle restriction, but not as much as older rear projection models, and they have a noticeably brighter, sharper (and obviously higher resolution) picture than older models.
In any case, unless you are really married to the idea of hanging a TV on your wall, I'd definitely get a rear projection instead of an LCD. But that's me.
Edit: You don't need a huge room for a projector. My living room is only about 4-5 pyung and it's large enough. (We sit about 1.3 screen lengths back.) |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
| Um, that is not the cost of the system or anything, its just setting up one of our rumpus room to become a projector room. We did most of the work ourselves to save costs because spending over $5000 just for that would be insane. |
Insane-high for Australia maybe, but insane-low here. What stuff costs. Of course, most Korean projector owners don't spend that much on installation, but if we're talking about that HT in the previous photo... no way could you get that built in Korea for under 15 million won. Even going total D-I-Y wouldn't save you very much in terms money, and most certainly cost well more in terms of the value of one's time.
Plus it would take ages to complete. I have plenty of Korean friends who are builders and D-I-Yers, but I've never met a whole family of Koreans -- father and all the sons -- who'd be knowlegeable, capable and willing enough to take on such an effort. Seriously, Korea's rapidly transforming from a country of slap-dash fix-it-yourselfers to a nation of rich lazybones who have to hire out to unclog a toilet. The biased attitudes about people who work with their hands is, if anything, deepening over time.
I knew your figure of 8000~10000 AUD had to be excluding cost of the A/V gear, and possibly some other things. AUD 10,000 = about 7 million won? I've built bathrooms here costing more than that. Problem here is, who's got a rumpus room?  Besides my own places (because I designed them in as part of the remodelling) I've only seen 4 or 5 homes in Korea that had a dedicated HT that wasn't originally a living room or didn't double as a living room (which means it's just "semi-dedicated"). |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Actually it is not high for Australia, in fact it is very cheap because we did it ourselves and the room was already nicely structured to fit a projector.
Plus, that was near 6 years ago where nobody in our estate have heard of such a setup. Getting people to decorate your projector room, kitchen, deck, garage etc etc is sooooooo overrated nowadays. Its no wonder prices have inflated. Luckily my dad is a handyman.
Like I said, unless you are a movie freak sitting on your ass all day and night, yeah maybe it would worth spending over 17 million for it. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Looking at the low cost/quality housing here, I do not believe any housing renovation is worth too much. |
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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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rocklee
low-cost, quality housing? You're joking right? If you want a nice place in the city you're going to pay. 33pyung Busan, good neighborhood 250-300 Million (I've been looking a lot). Seoul, you might be looking at over 600 for a nice place in a good neighborhood. But I don't want to get off-topic, and I may have misunderstood your post...the way its worded 
How bout those rear-projectors? Anyone have any good or not so good experiences with them? |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Anyone got any prices?
so how much would something like in those pictures cost?
lets say, designing, building, materials, labor then the price of a top of the line projection and screen, sound system...
im not saying the very best, like something steven spielberg has in his house.. but something nice for the family and flashy...
and if you can, add some pics with the prices..
cheers.. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
Anyone got any prices?
so how much would something like in those pictures cost? |
In Australia? no. 
In Korea? oh, but most certainly!  (If you're serious, PM me.) |
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Walter Mitty
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Tokyo! ^.^
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of great posts in this topic! The projector army needs more recruiting officers.
One thing I've not seen mentioned much is gaming. I watch plenty of divx stuff on my setup (using XBox Media Center 360 - not the 360 itself, but the fabulous 360 XBMC clone), but I think I use it as much for gaming as I do videos. (If not more.)
So here are a few shots of how things look on my rig (Sanyo Z3 720p projector, 80" diagonal screen (only about a 70" image though, due to limited throw distance), Yamaha 5.1 surround setup.
The 360 dashboard.
The new Tiger Woods 360 demo. Nice trees, EA!
Two shots from Lego Star Wars II on 360.
One genre where having a projector really helps is in FPS games (Battlefield 2: Modern Combat on 360 seen here). It's kind of hard not to see somebody when the image is this big. Okay, so you can't see anybody in these images. I picked a game with only one other person in it so I'd be able to get some pics without getting killed.
Almost seems unfair, doesn't it?
And here's a shot of the Z3 in it's natural habitat.
The way it's set up, the fan vents towards the curtain, so even though the Z3 is at head level when you're on the couch, there's very little fan noise. The fans on the 360 and Xbox are both louder than the Z3, so any noise that might come from it is a moot point.
The 360, Xbox, PS2 and Gamecube are all hooked up with component cables, all routed through the switchbox (under the 360). I've still got a spare hookup, so the Wii (come on Dec. 2nd!) will also be connected via component.
(Yes, that's a DDR pad under the couch. I know it's kinda retarded, but it's decent exercise. DDR is actually the one weak point of having a projector. For movies and any games played from the couch, everything is perfect. But the way things are set up, two-player DDR is a bit tricky, since the person on the right is just barely out of the projector's beam. Too much dancing and they'll be blocking their own arrows. ) |
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