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taejonguy



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: What do you think of this job? Reply with quote

XXXX is looking for an English Instructor to work in their corporate head office in XXXX (One of the 5 biggest cities)

The duties of this position include, but are not limited to, the following:

1) Provision of teaching duties
2) Supporting international business projects
3) Translating, proofreading, editing, and/or writing various English documents and materials which the Employer or the staff members require as related to their jobs.
4) Miscellaneous English language learning consulting [/list]

The basic structure of the work week is a five day work week, eight hours per day (8 am-5 pm), for a total of 40 hours weekly. You will teach 3 hours per day, either 4 or 5 days a week. In exchange for this the employee will receive W 2,400,000-2,600,000 per month based on individual professional qualifications.

Additional benefits include standard items such as all national holidays off, medical insurance, shared pension contributions, 12 vacation days annually and a private office complete with high speed internet and printer.. Further benefits include access to the on-site dentist and oriental medicine doctor (both subsidized- e.g. free tooth fillings), Chuseok bonuses, usage of corporate condominium privileges, subsidized meals in company cafeteria, corporate outings and sports days, as well as the freedom to design and implement instruction as you decide appropriate. Additionally, the company will provide W 75,000,000 key money for an apartment.

It should also be noted that XXXX is owned by the National Government of Korea and thus all laws are followed as are all aspects of the contract agreed upon.

I have worked for this company for eight years and I have been treated royally. I recommend this job to someone that is a teacher with experience in Korea. You will be the only non-Korean in an office of about 1000 people and that will be an adventure in itself. You will need an open mind, a sense of humor and a solid work ethic to succeed here.


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taejonguy



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

since no one is answering and the post was deleted once already...I will clarify some things.

This is a legit job that was emailed to me by a friend. I would like opinions on the terms and conditions listed in the job. It seems ok but I was hoping someone else might see something I missed.

Thanks
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taejonguy wrote:
since no one is answering and the post was deleted once already...I will clarify some things.

This is a legit job that was emailed to me by a friend. I would like opinions on the terms and conditions listed in the job. It seems ok but I was hoping someone else might see something I missed.

Thanks


The offer sounds OK. Nothing special but OK. the thing to remember is that the devil is in the details.

An offer is NOT the contract. What does the fine print say?
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XXXX is looking for an English Instructor to work in their corporate head office in XXXX (One of the 5 biggest cities)

The duties of this position include, but are not limited to, the following:

1) Provision of teaching duties
2) Supporting international business projects

what does this mean?

3) Translating, proofreading, editing, and/or writing various English documents and materials which the Employer or the staff members require as related to their jobs.

how many, how often....etc


4) Miscellaneous English language learning consulting [/list]

The basic structure of the work week is a five day work week, eight hours per day (8 am-5 pm), for a total of 40 hours weekly. You will teach 3 hours per day, either 4 or 5 days a week. In exchange for this the employee will receive W 2,400,000-2,600,000 per month based on individual professional qualifications.

typical Korean stupidity.....thats 9 hours a day./...n ot 8

Additional benefits include standard items such as all national holidays off, medical insurance, shared pension contributions, 12 vacation days annually and a private office complete with high speed internet and printer.. Further benefits include access to the on-site dentist and oriental medicine doctor (both subsidized- e.g. free tooth fillings), Chuseok bonuses

how much/:>?


, usage of corporate condominium privileges,

which means what?

subsidized meals in company cafeteria, corporate outings and sports days, as well as the freedom to design and implement instruction as you decide appropriate. Additionally, the company will provide W 75,000,000 key money for an apartment.

so they will give you 75,000 $ for you to do as you wich...there is no mention of paying it back.....dumbasses

It should also be noted that XXXX is owned by the National Government of Korea and thus all laws are followed as are all aspects of the contract agreed upon.

I have worked for this company for eight years and I have been treated royally. I recommend this job to someone that is a teacher with experience in Korea. You will be the only non-Korean in an office of about 1000 people and that will be an adventure in itself. You will need an open mind, a sense of humor and a solid work ethic to succeed here

you will also need to drink heavily Cool
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a joke. I don't know a corporate teacher that makes that little, an editor/proofreader that makes that little, or an international business communications assistant that makes that little. The fact that they are asking you to do all three for that little is a farce. If you think that you might be able to dump the job as soon as something decent comes your way, then maybe it's worth it. There aren't too many editor positions around, though, and corporate teaching full time spells 9-5 with fair to midland pay.

I wouldn't be too excited about this offer. To each their own.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the job description:
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The basic structure of the work week is a five day work week, eight hours per day (8 am-5 pm), for a total of 40 hours weekly. You will teach 3 hours per day, either 4 or 5 days a week. In exchange for this the employee will receive W 2,400,000-2,600,000 per month based on individual professional qualifications.

Grotto wrote:
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typical Korean stupidity.....thats 9 hours a day./...n ot 8


That woud be stupid foreigner. That probably means an hour unpaid lunch break.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says they provide key money.. that may mean you pay rent.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with 75K in key money, odds are you won't be paying rent. you could pay maybe 100-200 a month in rent on top of the key money for a bigger or better place. with that many working hours, though, why bother?
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taejonguy



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, thanks Grotto (and everyone else) for replying. Here is what I think I think!

With respect to the duties...yes, some clarification is in order but, really, if you are there 8 hours a day, does it really matter all that much? They own you for those hours anyways. How much, how many or how often seems to be moot (within reason), no?

Also, as someone else pointed out, 8-5 (or 9-6) is 8 hours plus an unpaid lunch. This is not unknown in the West as well...

Questions about benefits, bonuses and the like would be something that are discussed (and perhaps negotiated?) at an interview... In my experience in the real world (which Korea only resembles superficially at times!) these are not usually fully spelled out in a job advertisement.

Where I live W75,000,000 will get you a 32 pyoung apt. in some areas and at least a 24 pyoung elsewhere. No rent involved and IF you wanted to be enterprising, you could add a roomate and have them pay you a couple of hundred bucks a month!

I think, after looking at the basic ad, and reading here, that the offer is pretty ok for being outside of Seoul. The hours are longish but getting off at 5 means freedom, as does no weekends. It seems like a real job rather than a typical Korean job.

I fully agree that the contract is where this job is going to be made or broken. If things look...dicey and they are unwilling to adjust them, then I will say "Cya!".

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you will also need to drink heavily Cool

And finally, I think Grotto hit the nail on the head with this one...a company job would mean consuming vast quantities of soju, mekkju and yangju on a regular basis...never mine becoming painfully acquainted with the local noraebangs!
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just throw in my last 2 cents. This would seem to a be a job for someone either at the very end or the very beginning of their career. Definitely not a money maker, and definitely not a resume pumper. If you want to teach, go to a public school or university. If you want to work on the business side, get a real business job. This position is neither, really. They want their cake and they want to eat it, too, which never sits well with me.
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