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CBP



Joined: 15 May 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Daily Structure and Discipline Reply with quote

Hello,

I've read through various threads, but haven't yet pinpointed information on how ESL teachers in Korea like to start and end their classes. Do you follow a general routine when you begin class? How do you assume control as the teacher and draw your students into each day's lesson? Are there things you do that your students have come to expect from you every time they're in your classroom?

Things like that.

Cheers,

CBP
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually start by doing the songs from the book....usually 5 or 6 minutes.

When things go well, the kids get into the routine and memorize all the songs and actions in the book.

It can get boring if I do it too much, so I don't do it everyday.

Then I try to do a page or 2 from the book, followed by a worksheet that may or may not have anything to do with what is in the book.

The way classes are scheduled, I never know exactly where the next class will be, so I can't really plan for a specific page/topic.

Sometimes I try to focus on the same vocabulary or subject matter, but sometimes it's nice to do something completely different. The kids need a lot of review........usually a lot more than is offered in the standard coursebook or hagwan curriculum, so I try to review things that they should know (but they usually don't). Also, new students tend to get thrown in at any time, so they need a bit of review to get up to speed with the rest of the group.

The last 15 minutes or so I leave for a game of some sort....if the students have been reasonable. If the students have been really loud or obnoxious, I usually don't give them game time.

Not the best, I know....but it's the best I can do with the restrictions that are placed on me.

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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on what type of school your working at. As a secondary school teacher it's pretty hard for me to know what to suggest if you're going to be teaching kindergarten.
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John Henry



Joined: 24 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I start and end my class with beatings.
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thu_tinh



Joined: 27 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Henry wrote:
I start and end my class with beatings.


lol that bad huh?
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CBP



Joined: 15 May 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm working at a hogwan, teaching elementary through middle school and a few high school students. But where you work and which level you teach doesn't matter to me. Your responses will give me something that I can think about and possibly adapt into my own lessons at some point.

Thanks!
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hyperlatina



Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Suwon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I start all my classes with a conversation topic - I found that it helps to loosen up the kids that normally won't talk in class.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBP wrote:
I'm working at a hogwan, teaching elementary through middle school and a few high school students. But where you work and which level you teach doesn't matter to me. Your responses will give me something that I can think about and possibly adapt into my own lessons at some point.

Thanks!


All right, though what I do may not have much applicability to you.

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Do you follow a general routine when you begin class?


Yes, I do.

Quote:
How do you assume control as the teacher and draw your students into each day's lesson?


I have the class prefect stand up, call everyone to attention, and they bow and say 'good morning / afternoon sir'.

Quote:
Are there things you do that your students have come to expect from you every time they're in your classroom?


More or less. They usually expect to get a phonics excercise and a dialogue. Other than that my lesson is usually a surprise, though things like listening excercises they're quite familiar with.
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CBP



Joined: 15 May 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's an excellent idea of having the kids stand and honor you as their teacher before each class. Followed by a teacher-led conversation warmup, that'd make for a nice start to each class.

Cheers!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBP wrote:
I think that's an excellent idea of having the kids stand and honor you as their teacher before each class. Followed by a teacher-led conversation warmup, that'd make for a nice start to each class.

Cheers!


Just the class prefect (bahn jang) stands while the others sit and bow. I also do it at the end of every lesson so that it's clear when learning time and free time stops and starts. I bow back, though some teachers don't believe in that. That's the common routine at real schools here. Whether the other teachers do that at your school can give you a pretty good indication of whether you're at a real school or not.
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CBP



Joined: 15 May 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand what a class prefect is.

Anyway, I want my students to have a good time, but I'm not going to bribe them into liking me by giving them gifts. So I do appreciate a more formal approach to discipline and teaching them to respect me.

Enjoying the input here.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My class goes like this:

I greet the students and they greet me.

I explain what we are going to do in class today.

Warm up introductory exercise to get the kids thinking about the topic.
Questions, picture match, brainstorming

Development activity: Listening or Speaking exercise related to the topic
Ss learn new vocabulary, phrases etc

Production: Students prepare their own role plays, presentation, etc

To end the lesson, I comment on their work: Good job, excellent etc. depending on how the class went, and then I ask them to put their chairs in and I let them go.

ilovebdt
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBP wrote:
I don't understand what a class prefect is.

Anyway, I want my students to have a good time, but I'm not going to bribe them into liking me by giving them gifts. So I do appreciate a more formal approach to discipline and teaching them to respect me.

Enjoying the input here.


The students, along with many educated in North American state schools, won't know either. Ask the students 'bahn jang odi?' If they reply 'yogi' and point and someone stands up and yells 'cherieah!', you're in luck. If they all reply 'mullah' and 'upso' you're out of luck, and not a real teacher they need to respect.

Sorry, but whether they'll respect you is 90% up to your school and 10% up to you.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, i make my students memorize and recite things. i beat them. i make them translate things into Korean so they can grasp them better. and i hardly use any English at all.

--no, wait, replace "i" with "Korean teachers"
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CBP



Joined: 15 May 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool
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