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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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 Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: Critics accuse Canada of abandoning Kyoto |
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Critics accuse Canada of abandoning Kyoto
Good.
Liberals didn't do shyte and now it's good to reverse this dead dog. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:24 am Post subject: |
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I'm afraid you're a bit misinformed:
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Federal Tories outvoted on pro-Kyoto bill
Oct. 4, 2006. 06:55 PM
CANADIAN PRESS
OTTAWA � A bill that would oblige the government to respect its obligations under the Kyoto Protocol passed second reading Wednesday, as the three opposition parties outvoted the government. The 152-115 vote in the Commons is an embarrassment for the Conservative government, which has declared the emissions-cutting targets of the climate treaty to be unachievable.
The bill's stated purpose is "to ensure that Canada takes effective and timely action to meet its obligations under the Kyoto Protocol and help address the problem of climate change." Conservative MPs found themselves in the awkward position of voting against a bill which calls on them to uphold a treaty which they claim to support.
But the Conservatives weren't showing any discomfort, cheering and gathering around Environment Minister Rona Ambrose as she voted. The private member's bill, introduced by Liberal Pablo Rodriguez, now goes to the Commons environment committee for study. After that it goes to third reading, possibly with amendments, and then to the Senate.
The vote is nevertheless significant, said Matthew Bramley of the Pembina Institute, an environmental think tank. "It shows once again that the government is pursuing a policy that is not only contrary to the opinions of the majority of (Canadians') opinions but contrary to the opinions of the majority of MPs," he said. |
Since the three opposition parties have already voted in favor of the Kyoto-enforcement bill, they are unlikely to reverse their position and vote for the government's bill. And since the PCs are in a minority government position, they can't get their bill to pass the House of Commons. In fact, it may bring the PCs down and force an election. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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I understand that part of the emissions is coming from Alberta. The oil is contributing to the Canadian economy. However, there can be ways to still meet Kyoto objectives or, at least, to approach it. It will be difficult.
And those who criticize Canada among Canadian, American, and European environmentalists are right.
I do like in the U.S. how California and New York have worked to cut emissions, and they are cooperating. I wish a Republican in the style of Schwarzneggar was president rather than Bush. And, as far as Harper, he is losing popularity due to his imbalance positions regarding the environment, foreign policy in the Middle East, preventing the decriminilisation of marijuana that some in Canadian society supported etc... I think he did turn out, in some ways, better than some thought, but he is not a Liberal or a Red Tory, he is a a right wing Blue Tory. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I understand that part of the emissions is coming from Alberta. The oil is contributing to the Canadian economy. However, there can be ways to still meet Kyoto objectives or, at least, to approach it. It will be difficult. |
It's not just the "oil coming from Alberta".
It's that the Alberta government is williing to pee, poo, on trample itself in order to get that oil out....using potable water (an incredibly rare resource to begin with), deforestation on amazing levels; they completely disregard the environment. |
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cosmicgirlie
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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There is a lot of political unrest in the air right now in Canada. The Cons are starting to wear thin.
First they kicked out Turner from Caucus. His conflict with his boss and his "breach of confidentiality" resulted in him being thrown out of the Conservative party. Turner is a strong environmentalist, which brings out the conspiracy thought that he was tossed a day before the "clean air act" was introduced.
Which has brought out the next big flutter around the Canadian blogoshere. That flutter being that Garth Turner could become Canada's first Green Party MP in the Parliament. If that was to occur I suspect that the political landscape of Canada will change.
The other thing that has made the wolf in sheep's clothing shine through is Mr. MacKay's comment in the House of Common's yesterday. He apparently called his ex-lover, that blonde daddy's girl--Belinda--a dog.
And this has only happened in the last three days! |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| I agree, the Tories worked hard to muzzle the lunatics during the election and then tried their best to keep the media at arm's length to keep them out of trouble. But I think most Canadians are waking up to the fact that the Tories, while keeping the majority of their promises unlike the Fiberals, are not what Canada stands for. We don't want Bushlite, and the only reason they even got their minority (despite what conservative supporters think) was because people were so pissed at the Liberals. |
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